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nbk2000 Moderator	posted December 07, 1999 03:16 AM Lighter flints are made out of zirconium and hafnium. These are the same metals used in military incendiary liners for cluster bomblets. You can see for yourself by taking a lighter flint, wrapping the spring from the lighter that pushed the flint against the wheel, heating the flint red hot with another lighter, and throwing it against a wall. A brillant shower of hot sparks is the result. Now, knowing this, take lighter flints (stolen en masse from the store) and sprinkle them inside your bombs. When the bomb goes off, you not only have the shrapnel, but you also have the red hot flints flying off in every direction, and anything they hit gets showered with white hot sparks, hopefully igniting the fuel liberated by the shrapnel. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
PryoTek Frequent Poster	posted December 09, 1999 05:15 AM If this is so, why can't u grind it up into dust and putting it into a firework because it will make sparks ?? ------------------ Great minds are't made at school They are born!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted December 09, 1999 06:41 AM You can do that if your want, but you could probably achieve the same effect for less using sparklers (althought the flint are basically inert). Plus, you want the flints to travel intact as far as possible. If they're broken up, they burn withing a few feet of the explosion, whereas, if they're intact when they are projected by an explosion, they will travel a much farther distance without burning until they impact an object. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted December 09, 1999 01:55 PM Makeshift Napalm eh? Just like the sparks that are shot out in every direction when the napalm bomb hits the ground.
Ho ju Moderator	posted December 09, 1999 03:17 PM how much heat does it take to make the flint glow red hot? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
HMTD Factory Frequent Poster	posted December 10, 1999 05:53 AM I guess you can do this, climb up a really tall building, on the edge of building, use a torch to heat up several rods of flint, after they got red hot, use some tools to flick them down. I tried to ground some of those, with mortar and pestle, it's brittle but too damn hard!
Ho ju Moderator	posted December 10, 1999 03:29 PM the flints are made to "sluff off" when you spark them with a lighter. they have o be extremely hard or they would be worn out inside 10 uses ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
Apathetic Frequent Poster	posted April 06, 2000 06:38 AM In the book Kill Without Joy, it shows a picture of some .22's with lighter flints in their tips. It says that these are good for use against gas tanks and oil storage dumps, etc. It looks like a hole was drilled in the bullet to a depth of half the flints length, and then the flint was put in. [This message has been edited by Apathetic (edited April 06, 2000).]
HydraShock Frequent Poster	posted April 06, 2000 09:40 PM I tried this and it works. What would be the benefits, if any, of using flints in conjuncion with AP?
Ho ju Moderator	posted April 06, 2000 09:42 PM does the flint add any penetration power because of how hard it is? or is it to brittle to even be considered in this light? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
uberchlor unregistered	posted April 06, 2000 10:10 PM Just a reminder of saftey, i hope nobody is actually thinking about drilling a live .22 bullet and adding a lighter flint, because the friction made by drilling produces sufficient heat to initiate the primer, and the gunpowder, sending the bullet away, even though this bullet will probably have no trajectory it is still very dangerous!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted April 07, 2000 04:11 AM I think the thing with the flints is that they'll ignite as they penetrate a gas tank, but they're probably too brittle to add any penetrating ability to such a small bullet. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Nunchaku Frequent Poster	posted April 07, 2000 04:48 PM hey NBK2000, is not flints made of a metal called cearium?
uberchlor unregistered	posted April 07, 2000 06:55 PM cerium, yes. but it can be either zirconium (with impurities of hafnium) or cerium, but to find out exactly you will have to conduct some tests on it, etc.
Raze Frequent Poster	posted April 08, 2000 06:34 PM About the incendiary bullet with the flint attatched, I just tried an experiment with my airgun(about 5 minutes ago) after reading that post. I took a normal pointed pellet and glued a lighter flint in the back part(the hollow area made by the "skirt" of the pellet, I used superglue to hold the flint in) and loaded it into my rifle,flint forward, of course.)I pumped it up to ten and shot a brick pillar in my fence. The flint did in fact cause a shower of white sparks that almost ignited a small patch of grass. If you have a pellet gun, you might want to give this a try, it was a really neat "effect."
zaibatsu Frequent Poster	posted April 08, 2000 06:55 PM Hey, you said pump it up about 10 times... does that mean you've got a pump-up pneumatic? if so, what make+model is it, and is it any good. Sorry if this is a bit off topic ------------------ Life is like a firework, one time it can look great, the next it can blow up in your face
Raze Frequent Poster	posted April 09, 2000 03:53 PM Yes, it is a pneumatic pump. It's a Crossman 2100 Classic. The muzzle velocity (at ten pumps) is about 800 feet per second, which is good enough for my purposes(killing rats,etc.) I bought it new about 2 or 3 years ago for $70.00 (U.S.), but the price has dropped to around $40.00. Pretty good gun for the price, and they last a long time.
kingspaz Frequent Poster	posted April 23, 2000 04:18 PM if ya wanna make a cunt of a napalm mix up a thin petrol/styrofoam napalm . to this add 4 parts napalm with 1 part powdered ammonium nitrate. this thing burn like fuck and cannot be blown out. also the addition of 1 part motor oil would increase its water resistance once alight and in storage.

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