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BoB-
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posted May 17, 2000 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
hey, guys I have been studying on human bones
and weak joints and have come up with several
good ways to defend myself if anyone wants to add to this list, or tell me I'm wrong on something(I may be) feel free.
The Elbow,
this one is useful if the man has a knife. put your hands just low of his wrist and hold his wrist facing away from you like a baseball bat put your shoulder onto the outside of his elbow turn your body as hard as you can (pull on his wrist while pushing your shoulder at the same time)this should be done when the arm is all the way back (his wrist facing behind him) if it doesnt snap he will still be slammed forward (lockers, walls, jagged spikes)
The Shoulder,
this one is NOT for if he has a gun, push him down by putting your right leg(if your right handed or he's left handed) behind his legs below the knees then its just a simple push with your right hand and hes down, grab a arm and pull up until his shoulder is slightly off the ground while pulling up on his arm (get a good grip) kick
the front of his arm pit (on the Pectorial).
the foot,
just turn it towards the other one till it snaps (useful if he trys to kick you).
The Arm,
if the man has you in a headlock and hes right-handed, try to get the fingers of your right hand slightly around his right wrist, then with your left hand, face it palm up and smack your hand up into the ballsac and penis
keep doing this until he loosens his grip enough to pull your head out, then instantly tighten your right hand around his wrist then take his arm and bend it at the elbow and push it up towards his head along his back until he screams and you hear a crack.
The Knee,
this one is easy, just move so your good foot can kick the opposite knee to the
one your closest to. then, kick his knee cap at a 45-degree angle (sortve the side of his knee)this will strike the patellar tendon a fragile unprotected tendon and he wont be walkin for a while.

SELF DEFENSE


The Shirt Grab,
alot of people grab you by the shirt if you are a little guy (or they are huge) this is very dumb it leaves the face partially open, the solar plexus open and the ball sac completly open, I recomend a swift knee to the balls then form your hand into a fist and "hammer" the thumb side of your hand directly in front of his ear with luck you broke his jaw and you can escape with your life.

A Kick
most people will try to kick in a fight this is very dumb, if hes trys to front kick you either step back or to the side and catch his foot by grabbing it and immediatly pulling it to just above your hip. then, if he kicked you with his right leg (then it should be by your left side right now) put your right foot
behind his left foot and push him in the chest, hold on to his leg unil he hits the ground this will add to the "pendulum effect"
and slam him into the ground harder, then you can either dislocate his shoulder (see above)
or sit on top of him and beat the piss out of him, or the recommended approach would be to
sit with you legs on his arms and to hold him there until a school administrator/gaurd/or police officer breaks you two up.

A Guy Has got You On The Ground And Is And Is Sitting On Top Of You, Beating The Crap Out Of You,
there is only 2 things open for strike here the solar plexus (youll never get a solid hit in right now) and the ballsac, grab the ballsac and squeeze as hard as you can lean forward as much as you can and take a fist and "hammer" it into the side of his face in front of the ear, or just squeeze one of his boys till it pops.

A Bear Hug,
these are actually kinda dangerous a strong man could break your back! take your right foot (or left if you left handed) and kick
his left knee at a 45-degree angle to strike the patellar if this does not work keep doing it until he drops you or falls (be prepard for a potential fall) no rear-head butts unless you KNOW for a fact your not going to
hit his teeth (ouch!) the FORE-HEAD is the strong part of the head.

A Man Is Trying To Par'y(SP?) You With A Knife
Move! to either side quickly then grab his arm and either break his arm, his elbow,
or if he try's with his right arm grab his wrist (VERY firmly)push back on his sraight arm and "karate chop" his inner elbow then immediatly push towards him with luck you just stab him around the collar bone area.

A Trained Attack/Gaurd Dog Is Running At You,
take off your shirt/jacket or sweater and wrap it around your BAD wrist, then "offer"
it to the dog then when hes latched on be careful he will try to get you to the ground
by shaking his head from side to side and pulling back on your arm (OOOOWWWWWW!) dont fight it that much that will put you off balance, use your free hand to jab your thumb into its eye and stomp on it's paws, if you hurt him signifigantly enough he will run off
or you'd better!

A Man Has A Gun And Firing Randomly At You And Others,
RUN! get as far away as possible run away in a zig-zag pattern (if he is using a hand gun)
then hide behind old lady's and baby caridges. Just kidding, but keep something between you 2 at all times like, stone
pillars, walls, panes of glass. (thats another joke)

thats all, please feel free to add or post comments/corrections

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Ho ju
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posted May 17, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
i don't agree with the thing you said about kicking. i can kick very damn fast and people would be hard pressed to just catch my foot when it is flying at there knee/stomach/face. you make it sound like we all have reflexes like cats.

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AfterRain
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posted May 17, 2000 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
"A Man Is Trying To Par'y(SP?) You With A Knife
Move! to either side quickly then grab his arm and either break his arm, his elbow,"

NO, you got it all wrong ! If he throws his right arm at you with a knife in it , you jump to the right side of his arm , cause if you jump left he can still bend in his arm and slice you.... Once your on the right side of the right arm you can fuck him up good ! and same goes to the left ...


BoB-
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posted May 18, 2000 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
Hoju, very true alot of people can kick very well but chances are in a school, or an inexperienced attacker, type fight they almost always go for the balls or the solar plexus so what I'm saying is dont kick unless you know how
afterrain, thank you, I didnt even think of that.

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Maddoc
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posted May 18, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maddoc     
Kicking won me the fight against Mr Fuckwit and has helped in others.

Even though I doubt he would have got up off the ground after I broke his collarbone (sharp 2nd knuckle punch to the shoulder) I just lifted up his arm and kicked him in the armpit which dislocated his shoulder. The fight was all over in what must have been 15 seconds.

The main reason I won was because he was one of those types who had never had a real fight, didn't know how to fight but still thought he was the man. I (the supposed computer nerd) had read many army training manuels and knew just how to deal with the bitch.

Goes to show, never underestimate your enemy. And never pick a fight, ever.

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xilo
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posted June 08, 2000 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xilo   Click Here to Email xilo     
well if you have a good pair of metal tip boots one quick kick to the thigh will win you the extra time to break some bone


never underestimate the power of a good hit to muscle if you hit a good tendon or nerve the arm or leg will go numb enough so that he cant use it for 30-60 seconds


BoB-
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posted June 08, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
steel tipped bootd are fine if hes already down but NEVER kick unless your like bruce lee or somethin, anytime you kick you shift weight which is bad I have been able to push people over without any special leverage when they've tried to kick me dont forget the person you may be fighting may be fast enough to move clear. I kow that the patellar tendon is a exposed nerve in the leg and is very sensitive and I've only gone for it once when I was already down. the one I forot to mention was, taking your palm and hitting someone in the nose at a 90% angle. pressing the cartilidge in the nose up into the eye ducts causing severe pain

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Dax
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posted June 09, 2000 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dax   Click Here to Email Dax     
I happen to be in tae kwon do and can tell you for certin that kicking is very useful in a fight. nuff said on that.


BoB-
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posted June 09, 2000 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
are you kidding? kicking is the worst thing to do in a fight. your "Tae Kwon Do" is fine
for when the other 5th grader's take your pudding, but in a real fight the best way to win is to make it over in 3 seconds and you jus might escape with your life

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BoB-
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posted June 09, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
just another mention, some people can kick very well. yet a pumelling of your fists is the best way to end a "school fight" hey, who said you have to fight fair? just sucker punch him a million times until someone breaks up the fight.

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Ho ju
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posted June 09, 2000 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
i think the best way to win a HIGH SCHOOL fight is to be decisive. do not hesitate to break a nose or collar bone. hit strait into the face, do not do any pussy "half hooks" to the jaw (hell if you can get a nice telescoped hook anywhere then take it) i would suggest jabbing strait to the nose/mouth/forhead then grabbing the fucker by the head or shoulders and kneeing him in the nutz/stomach.

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xilo
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posted June 09, 2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xilo   Click Here to Email xilo     
hey a good kick in the shins can break the bone


Ho ju
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posted June 09, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
yeah no shit a good kick anywhere would breaek something. but chances are you can't break the shin bone unless you pull you foot back and give the shin a nice hit. but if you do that you leave yourself wide open.

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