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ClintonxSucks Frequent Poster	posted May 18, 2000 08:56 PM I was wonder, if one was chemically inclieded and could make ALOT of liquid LSD,couldnt you mix it with water(so the victims wouldnt OD), put it in a 20oz soda bottle with a pvc BP bursting tube? LSD can work if it touchs the skin, and this probably wouldnt kill anyone, but deffinatly has some uses.. any ideas?
Ho ju Moderator	posted May 18, 2000 09:36 PM would the lsd diluted int he water still be able to be absorbed well by the skin? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
BrassMonkey Frequent Poster	posted May 18, 2000 09:46 PM why mix it w/ water? who cares if the victims OD? They probably wouldnt anyway, because only a small amount would hit them.
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 11:48 AM My god, are you fucking stupid? If you have that much LSD then you can sell it and get better weapons, and lots of them.
Mmanwitgun Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 03:00 PM Well I don't think that the person would OD on the acid. They would most likely perma-trip. That basically means they will be more fucked up in the head forever than any hippy will ever be. The person won't be able to function well in society. I do have to agree though that you would just trade acid for better weps. With only a mayonase jar full of the stuff you could buy a few (3 or so) full auto ak-47s or select fire Uzis off the black market (They are generally 1.5-2 thousand each). ~Dave
Marshall Mathers Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 03:15 PM A solution containing DMSO and LSD will penetrate the skin, buy even so.. The LSD wouldnt work instantly. There would still be a 20/30 minute "wait", before the lsd takes effect. Although this can be used as a tactical wepaon... If a group of enemys/gangs/terrorists were getting ready for attack. A SPY could add an extremely high LSD supply to their potable water tank(s). While your crew is preparring their ordnance (waiting for the spy to return). After the spy returns. And you get a report from the survailence scout (who watches the situation from a distance with spotting scopes and a 2mile+ radio) which states that the drugs are taking effect. Then it is time to move in, What is done next depends on the individual, and the reason for the campaign. For the DMSO/LSD combination... The only thing I can think of right now is putting it on doorknobs in high dosed. Or you could replace somones eye-drops with a strong solution of LSD. I would personally use other chemicals besides LSD for all of this. But thats just me.
Dax Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 08:32 PM how about designing a way to administer LSD in a gaseous or aresol form..... Think about all the graduation ceromonies happening soon, just pump a couple hundred thousand hits af acid through the ventalation systems to ensure an unforgetable night...
Ho ju Moderator	posted May 19, 2000 08:41 PM to reak havoc around your city you could fill a water bottle up with lsd and go around spraying people int he face with it. with a full water bottle you could get tons and tons of people. do this right before a bank robbery to add to the confusion (if you are doing it right in the middle of the city) ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
BrassMonkey Frequent Poster	posted May 20, 2000 03:25 AM where are you going to get all this LSD? If it was that easy to get it would probably replace pot as the most common illegal drug.
nbk2000 Moderator	posted May 20, 2000 03:52 AM The CIA experimented with LSD sprays and drugged drinks in the 50s and 60s. They gave it up because it was too unpredictable in its effects. They also tried PCP with the same results. LSD costs about $25-30 for a 200 microgram dose. That's 1/200,000,000th of a gram. Do you have the money to buy or make all this LSD? If you're looking for something to use as a n incapacitant, try cat tail pollen. The plant, not the animal . It's a very powerful irritant, doesn't have any odor, is free, and is harmless. It leaves a person choking and gasping for air while their eyes tear and nose runs. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." Search the archive before you ask. http://members.xoom.com/forumlibrary
Dax Frequent Poster	posted May 20, 2000 04:11 AM ok, first off, if you have the skill to make acid, it requires a degree in organic chem. then the cost of the chemicles involved arn't to pricy. You guys here on the fourm seem to be able to synthastise anything, fuck if you can turn house hold items in to explosives then its not that much harder to make LSD, and besides since you not actualy going to take it then you should care less how "pure" it is.... not that i would ever even bother i bet ubechlor could do it for us
BrassMonkey Frequent Poster	posted May 20, 2000 08:58 PM nbk2000: how would you get/extract/whatever the cat tail pollen. also when you say cat tail you mean those little prickly things that look like wheat kind of? I call those foxtails (not that anyone cares)
ClintonxSucks Frequent Poster	posted May 20, 2000 08:59 PM Its very hard to OD on LSD itself. Yes, you could sell the acid and buy weapons with, but not all of us are motivated by money alone. An LSD attack would probably wouldnt have the same legal consquinces as a tradional bombing.
nbk2000 Moderator	posted May 20, 2000 11:55 PM Cat tails look like a corn dog on a green stick. And they grow in wet, swampy ground. Like ponds, lakes, rivers, etc. You just collect them when they're dry and the fuzzy pollen comes off easily and just scrap it off the center. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." Search the archive before you ask. http://members.xoom.com/forumlibrary
Ho ju Moderator	posted May 21, 2000 12:22 AM does the cat tail pollen target only people that are allergic to it or is it an iratint to all people who get it in there eyes/nose? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted May 22, 2000 04:15 AM The pollen will fuck up anyone who breaths it. Not just people with allergies. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." Search the archive before you ask. http://members.xoom.com/forumlibrary
petn A New Voice	posted May 24, 2000 10:10 AM Wanna know something about LSD????? Go and see: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml Happy Fun, Firestorm P.S.: 200 ug = 0.2mg = 1/5000th of a gram.
ClintonxSucks Frequent Poster	posted May 24, 2000 08:42 PM What is it in the cat tail pollen that cuases it effects? what are its effects?

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