posted April 03, 2000 11:25 PM            

-Have your partner, who plays the cop, handcuff you then spray the hell out of you with pepper spray. Practice fighting while in this state. Your feet will be your main weapons. If you can get him down try to move your hands over your ass and down your legs to get them in front of you.

-Get a cops utility belt and practice taking his gun away from him. Tackle his gun in the holster like you were grabbing a football. Place your body across his side between his gun and his arms. He will try to beat the shit out of you in a death struggle.

Remember, if any of this were real the cop will be trying to kill you, not merely subdue you. This is a very serious fight to the death. The second thing he will do is try to radio for help and go for a back up weapon, most likely on his inner ankle. A smart cop would keep a folding Buck knife on his belt, but most don't.

-Get into the legs-crossed, hands on head position cops are so fond of. Devise ways to defeat this position and tackle the cop. They told us not to try to stand up, it takes to much time. Practice tackling him and punching him in the throat to kill him. Make sure you pull those punches as its extremely easy to crush the wind pipe.

-The next time you see the cops arrest someone watch the entire procedure. Learn that police agencies methods. Go home and practice defeating the measures they took. Exploit weak points. It helps very much if you can VIDEO TAPE THE WHOLE THING. Its like having their play book in your pocket.

-This is slightly off subject but refers to ambushes. Go out into the outskirts of town and find an old abondoned car. Place cardboard cutouts of a driver inside it. Now practice shooting the driver at a distance with a handgun. Its not as easy as you might think, thats why the practice is needed. There are lots of books on ambushes, snipers, ect. Seek them out and learn all you can. The good old Army has done all the work for you, never think of 'how-else' this information might be used.

killer_elite

posted April 05, 2000 04:09 PM            

First of all, if you're having to fight a cop for his gun then that means you fucked up and got caught. At this point everything else is irrelevant.

But shit happens so it's good to plan for any possibilities.

A cops holster is most often of a security type that requires the gun be pulled straight up out of the holster. If it's pulled at an angle (like from the front or behind) it will hang up. So a person would have to practice on a real security holster worn by someone else to get the pull angle right.

If someone is wearing a vest and facing the cop they might try grabbing the gun tightly around the slide and pulling it into the vest. After the first round is fired into the vest, because the slide couldn't cycle, the slde would have to be manually pulled to load another round into the gun. This would require the cop to use both hands, but you only need one free hand to crush his throat or gouge his eyes.

If a person was given to suicide, they could have a claymore or bomb strapped on their back with the switch clipped inside their shirt collar where the label goes. Cops always tell people "Hands on your head" so if you put your hands behind your neck they're not going to tell you not to. When they get within range, BOOM! No worries about prison and you take at least one cop to hell with you.

It has been known to happen that someone calls 911 and when the cops show up they get ambushed. That's a good idea. Call 911 saying that some kind of party is distubing the peace or something like that. You don't want them coming to the scence thinking that they're going to have to deal with a possible threat. Something safe will put them at ease so they won't be as ready for the hail of bullets or shrapnel that's waiting for them.

Command detonated bombs would be best because the cops can't kill a bomb.

Donut shops, believe it or not, really are hang outs for cops. Maybe get a job at one and have "special" donuts set aside for the local police officers.

I've noticed that once someone has been arrested and put in the car that cops tend to stop paying attention to them and stand around bullshiting with each other.

A handcuff key should be sewn into every pair of pants a criminal has. When the criminal is alone in the cop car, he undoes his cuffs, breaks out the car window, and escapes.

posted April 06, 2000 06:36 PM         

Anyway, in California, 1970's I think, the cops were called to a domestic disturbance at a house. They went there and the entire house was empty except for a suitcase. They opened it and in the next 3 seconds every cop in that room was dead.

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