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Maddoc
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posted February 01, 2000 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maddoc     
Hi, I just signed up and I have this cool new thing form The PMJB videos.

This is a 50 foot by 36 foot fireball detonated by 160 paper book match heads.

You can skip the section on fuses and use commercial stuff If U want.
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First, cut off one carton of book matches heads, then put half of them into a cup and fill it halfway with boiling water, stir, and in a few seconds the Pottasium Chlorate and sulfer will drop away and leave the paper floating on top.

Pour through a sive and into a bowl, discard the paper and evaporate most of the liquid. When its down to a thick mush, its time to make the fuses.

Cut about 20 ten inch lengths of medium size cotton twine, stir 1 at a time in the mush, the put on a baking pan and put on a 200 degree oven for about 20 mins, or else put them outside in the sun.

When dry these fuses are brittle so don't bend them or handle them any more than nescessary.
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Now for the detonators.

cut a 3 1/2 and a 4 1/2 length of 1/2 inch PVC tubing from your hardware store.

But two endcaps, 1/2 inch.

drill a 1/8 inch hole in one of the two caps, put a fuse 3 1/2 inches through

Glue that cap to the 3 1/2 inch length.

Fill the 3 1/2 inch tube ( fused) with the match heads, and glue on the end cap.

The pass the fuse through the 4 1/2 inch length, and glue it to the end cap with a glue gun.

Cover all the joints (end caps to pipe etc) with glue from a glue gun, this is to stop the gasoline dissolving through the plastic.

Cut a 1/2 inch hole in a 4 pint milk jug cap, and put the 4 1/2 inch length a 1/2 inch through it.

Jug cap end caps
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4 1/2 3 1/2

It should look like that.


Now, fill the milk jug (4 pints or smaller) with gasoline to the curve. Place the detonator in and screw it on.

Light the fuse and run like crazy for about 100 feet or more.

It does work, I have seen it go, One helluva fireball. 50x36 foot flame.

I take no responsibility for whatever you do, this is for information purposes only, I don't care if you kill yourself, I didn't. If you do, then its natural selection you moron.




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catch22
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posted February 07, 2000 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catch22   Click Here to Email catch22     
just a note,

gasoline doesn't detonate.

Catch 22

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nbk2000
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posted February 07, 2000 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
I've seen this device go off in a clip on some TV show. It's a fuel-air type bomb. Blows the gasoline into a cloud and ignites it. Outdoors it's not very powerful since there's almost no shrapnel and the target would have to be in the fireball to be damaged.

But indoors, it would burn everyone and everything to a crisp. And being confined, it would be like a low powered bomb exploding.

It has the advantage of being very cheap and easy to make with easily obtained materials.

If a person wanted a much more powerful version, use starting fluid. Put the cans in a freezer till they're cold, turn the can upside down and vent off all the pressure, then use a church key can opener to punch a hole in the side of the can to drain off the ether. Each $2 can of starting fluid contains about a pint of fluid. 4 cans would just about fill a 2 liter bottle.

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nbk2000
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posted February 07, 2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
Here's a link to a US Army patent that uses 2 liter bottles for making FAEs. I tried making this a link but it didn't work. You'll have to cut and paste it.
http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=16&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=pall&s1=generator&s2='chemical+warfare'&OS=generator+AND+" chemical+warfare"&RS=generator+AND+"chemical+warfare"

This is how you really make a fireball!

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mosaz
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posted February 08, 2000 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosaz   Click Here to Email mosaz     
Indoors it would be an effect like a vacuum bomb or not?? The explosive detonates spraying the gas all over the room. the flame of the gas wil use up the whole 02 and so there will be an vacuum effect, or not??


nbk2000
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posted February 08, 2000 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
Explosions create momentary vacuum by displacing the air with a shock wave. This requires a powerful explosion though.

This firebomb (the homemade version, not the patented version) wouldn't have the power to create a true vacuum effect. But it would use up all the oxygen in a room and replace it with carbon monoxide and dioxide. And blow out the doors and windows.

So to answer your question, NO. It wouldn't be a "vacuum" bomb.

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Ho ju
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posted February 08, 2000 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
and needless to say if you used a big enough bomb to create a vacuum you would not need the "vacuum" effect anyway to destroy a house cause a bomb that big woul do just fine by itself

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Feticidal Fantasy
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posted February 10, 2000 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feticidal Fantasy   Click Here to Email Feticidal Fantasy     
So all this is, is a PVC pipe bomb w/ match heads, placed inside a milk jug of gasoline?
Am I missing something?
PVC pipe bombs with match heads are pretty weak.
How about a steel pipe bomb with smokeless rifle powder. or HMTD.

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nbk2000
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posted February 10, 2000 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
You are missing the point. The PVC/matches isn't intended to be a pipe bomb so much as a burster/igniter for the gasoline. It blows the gas into a spray and then ignites it.

A pipe bomb (metal/HE) would vaporize the gasoline and if it did ignite, it would burn off in an instant. Like a flash fire.

The PVC and matches is much cheaper and easier to construct. No drills or chemicals needed.

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Maddoc
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posted February 18, 2000 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maddoc     
Thanks everyone for your replies.

Some of you have suggested using HMTD and smokeless powder. The idea of this fireball (by Kurt Saxon)is that not many people can get hold of smokeless powder etc and so it was designed to be made from odds and ends lying around your home.

Just some info, if you used a metal pipe bomb with HMTD like someone suggested then youd get a huge explosion and the Gasoline would burn of in a split second.

When I tried it, the gasoline (unleaded) fireball lasted about a second and after 3 there was tiny patches of burning grass left. A 40x40 area (approx) of grass was totally scorched black.

I don't know about vacuum bombs or what some people have suggested, thanks anyway to NBK200 for answering them.



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