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uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 07:37 PM over the past 6 months ive been toying around with ideas in my head. more or less mind made movies of advanced terrorism. and over the time i came up with some ideas to give terrorist in a Urban setting a hopefully big advantage over any Counter Terrorist or genrally the law. one of my favorite is a idea to take a fast street bike and add some thing that comes off the back and surrounds the rear tire. this would be where 2 terroist could put there feet. im not sure on how i would want your feet latched in. the hands would grab around a metal bar coming out above 2-3 feet above this foot plate. this would have senors that report to a helmit on the head of the terrorist driving the bike to know when one or both of his men hes transporting have 1 or both hands holding on. this way he can ajust his driving style acordingly to push the limets as far as he could safly and praticly take them without losing his buddys. the men would carry light armor and small automatic arms. maby some thing like mp5 's. idea is you can trasport to men anyware in a decent size city in the smallest time possable while moving them on the street. drivebys and random killing would be a dream. not only can a streetbike beat any damn cop car on earth but it can outhandle them to. there Ultra hard to hit and are easy to hide. diguiese and take apart. another possaility is you could use it to take guns off cops. whats a cop without a gun ? Bacon! ride by and just snatch it from his belt. of corse you would have to slow down a ways. you could possably modify it more to allow it to be as silent as possable so the cop never knows its coming. this bike was born on this dream. how to highjack a cop car. this dream and idea wouldnt have become possable if it wasnt for a sceen in the show cops. cops tryed pulling over a suspected drunk driver. he went aways before stopping, one cop runs up and the camra is behind him. the driver had both windows rolled up and doors locked. once the agressing officer saw this he grabed his flashlight with one hand and he had his pistol in his otherhand. you know cop flashlights are heavy and stong. he taps the glass on the driver side window just right and caused it to shatter outwards. with very little glass around the edges. now my idea is for a modyifed silent Terrorist street bike to ride up at a low rpm slowly up to a copcar late at night withno one else on the road. this well only work with 1 cop in the car. 2 would need twice the people/equment and prefected timing. the bike driver should be holding a large heavy metal object. as he reaches the window driving about 5-10 MPH faster than the cop car he hits the window just right and it breaks outwards and shatters the window. at the point after the window is shattered it well be allmost like a flashbang to the cop. giving the terrorist on back enough time to open the door and grab the whell and put a foot on the break just as the terrorist driving the bike vears off, slows down and fallows while the operation gos on. talking to his man over head mounted radio. the terroist should get his foot to the break in the cop car as fast as possable and turn the whell, let off a little to get the tires spinning then slam it again to lock the whells. hopefully sending the copcar into a counter clockwise spin while having your body pushed aginst the door to prevent the terrorist from dropping away. meanwhile having the cops head slammed aginst the passenger seat blocking his vision as much as possable. he should work on undoing the cops seatbelt (if hes waring one) and once the car is skidding backwards the terrorist should take his right hand and shove the cop out of the open police car door (keep it open or this wont work!) at this point the car should be skidding as slow as 20 mph (depending on inital speed) and the cop shouldnt be hurt. the terrorist should get into the car and get it driving down the road as soon as possable. the cop well most likly get up and start firing his weapon so you should slide down in the seat to prevent as little gunfire to reach as you possable ,the entire operation shouldnt take more than a few seconds to complete. now to me this sounds quite possable with proper training. i have Many more ideas like this and im thinking of writing a document on all of this. by the way im 16 years old. what do you think of my tatical and equment ideas ? and my age to be dreaming up this stuff? i cant want to read replyes for this.
vos A New Voice	posted January 27, 2000 08:17 PM wtf you been smoking? Jesus thats stupid, to attempt to steal a cop car or rob a cop?? First off, cop cars have locators built in, they'll follow you. Second, if you ride around on a bike with a MP5, every cop for 10 miles will be looking for you. And trying to rob one of his gun is idiocy, the holsters prevent the gun from comming out and certain angles, you probably wont get the angle right while moving, fall on your ass, and then find a fat cops knee in your jaw pinning you to the ground. Dreams arent real life and things dont go your way in real life situations.
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 08:27 PM actually ive been smoking pot. and yes ive seen cop holsters up close. i know how they work. rember this is a Terroristic idea. not a robbery idea. you steal a cop car and drive it into the ocean or some thing. the idea is to TERRORISE the police, driving fear into them. you think a cop is gonna do night shifts in a cop car alone after some thing like this happenes a couple times? Hell no! i know terrorism has nothing to do with this board. but this is under the topic of improvised weapons and the converted terrorism street bike is a improvised weapon with to the best of my Knowledge a lot of flexability and the law doesnt have realy anything to counteract this weapon. and what kinda idiot wouldnt hide his weapon if he was forced to be carryed by this bike in a public area? cant see a weapon. dont know if he has one right ? exactly. and if cops do fallow you, rember theres NOTHING that can catch this guy. as long as he doesnt mess up and crash. the main idea is to cause courption and fear within police. it also has uses that would be valueable to a terroist if done right i belive. [This message has been edited by uss3cs (edited January 27, 2000).]
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 27, 2000 08:39 PM one of the things that stikes me as VERY VERY stupid about what you just spoke about was using a bike in a driveby...and saying that a bike is really hard to hit... a cop that is light on the trigger will take down any stupid punk kid with his side arm no problem. that and a scater gun will do wonders to it. dream or not that is not the best plan. no using the bobcat that was spokin about ages back is a good plan. read up on that post. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
BaDSeeD Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 09:01 PM Man i wonder if i should even waste my time posting on here. As some of these "dreamers" are seriously fucked in the head. ------------------ Knowledge is the true power, ignorance will bring your demise.
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 09:07 PM how is using a street bike in a driveby stupid ? go by a home doing 60 mph that has 3 people standing infront who you want whacked lets say. a man on the back with a small automatic weapon focused on his target well hit all targets and any survivos wouldnt remember much more than 2 men on a street bike going fast and one had a gun. the bike could be long gone before any cop could ever arrive.
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 27, 2000 09:13 PM same with a car and i sure would like to see someone that was not in the "tour de france" class do 60 on a bike. HA!!!! i would say go 30 with luck and weighed down with guns...and ammo...hell even a gun and one clip. what you is saying is pretty damn far fetched. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 27, 2000 09:14 PM not to mention the fact that they are not sturdy doing anything over 20. and the idea of having other members ride along with you on the same bike that is going to be used with success...come on now. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 09:39 PM i ride street bikes. ive ridden with another rider of my weight (185 pounds 6,2 tall) and even though handling suffered i could still get up to some nice speeds. if you learned to drive with another rider pushing the limets then this idea is made more possable, ill admit handling suffered heavly but you just need both rider and driver to work togeather. as long as your other guy can learn how to ride with you and move with you its more controlable.i think it would be easyer to hide the fact it was you than if you where to use a car.but a driveby is just an example. anyways to the best of my understanding small automatic arms have very little kick. a friend told me its near nothing on some auto 's. correct me if im wrong but i do put trust into that friend says about certin weapons.after all hes fired them,only weapons ive ever fired have been high powered semi-auto 's.
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 27, 2000 11:01 PM a .22 rifle has no kick (well onyl a little but you could fire one riding a bike standing on your head and not be thrown off by the kick) so an auto .22 would be a good choice for un-armed people with no body armor. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted January 27, 2000 11:49 PM Have you been smoking marijuana while playing HL CounterStrike? ------------------ VeHeMT's Armoury
neo unregistered	posted January 28, 2000 12:03 AM how many people here smoke pot?? I know this will piss off NBK2000 and all of his chums but who cares? Please come into the spotlight and be seen by all.....
nbk2000 Moderator	posted January 28, 2000 12:04 AM I think the only way most people would be able to reach 60 MPH on a bike would be to ride it off a cliff. But seriously, a dirt bike would be excellent for using instead of a bicycle. It's not as silent, but you have speed and it can go up terrain too rough and steep for a car or truck to follow. Columbian drug gangs use hitmen on motorbikes all the time to drive up to someone in traffic and the guy on the back of the back blasts the victim before they roar off between the cars stuck in traffic. The military is experimenting with All Terrain Bicycles for the paratroopers. Go to http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/5265/atb.htm for more info. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
PryoTek Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 12:48 AM yeah i smoke pot good shit! ------------------ Great minds are't made at school They are born! "Becoming jaded on grass is disrespectful to the grass. I think we devalue grass a bit sometimes by toking up and running out to do something else instead of sitting back and waiting for it to come on. When you turn on, you ought to relax and let it happen. Some people turn on for years and are always distracted by music or television or a party. They never get into the upper reaches of cannabis. That's the place where you have to be a little deliberate and ceremonial." Stephen Gaskin Cannabis Spirituality 1996
HMTD Factory Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 02:33 AM uss3cs. Things you posted was done in Japan, there they have gangs with a fleet of heavy motorcycle showing up on big streets, two people on a bike, with long weapon but no guns, they drive by and chop people's hand or head off, but still can't beat cops.
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 03:40 AM How many people though i ment a bike you peddle ? im not that stupid! i was talking about the like F1 kinda fast Street motorcycles that have ENGINS! with a lot of power. i mean the fastest things on 2 whells on the road! i know there extremly fast. and VeHeMT yes i have been smoking pot and playing counter strike but no thats not where i got this idea from at all. i came up with this near completely before i ever played counter strike. i look to counter strike as only a game. in my mind. my dreams just arnt dreams, there real. I love pot.and all of the creativity it can give you and how wonderfull it makes you fell when you realy need to fell good ,i gotta be honest, i love living where i do. ill just say this. i live where you can get more Mauiwowie than anyware else in the world =) HMTD the fast street motorcycles im talking about could hold 2 people and still beat the cops. im sure of it. you see cop chases on TV ? you ever seen a cop car catch up to a badass Street motorcycle ? HELL NO! add another person and it should still beat. it defently would with a little bit of modifycations.
Dr-D Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 03:57 PM Ive seen cop chases with a motorcycle and the helicopter kept an eye on him until he ran into a car looking back at the cop car chasing him.
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 28, 2000 04:52 PM yeah the last thing you want to do it flee by ways of a car or motercycle. i would think the best thing to do is get some SCUBA gear and make an escape by means of water. like out into the ocean if you can. they would never look for you there and if they did there are endless hiding spaces. a helicopter sees just about everything and it amazes me to see the stupid criminals think they can outrun one ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 06:15 PM a FAST street bike could outrun any police vehicle, Squad car OR helicopter. if i where to put this idea to work i would MAKE SURE my bike was fast enough. if a fast street bike can waist my friends 99 Corvette and if that 99 Corvette can beat any cop car on the face of this planet then im confadent a powerfull streetbike could do the job i had planed.
dlwdaw Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 06:24 PM when the guys on the bike hear the cops coming the guy on back should turn around. so he is facing backwards. when he see's the cops he shoot out the tires, then he shoots the spotlight thing on helicopter. the cops would be pretty fucked then. ------------------ C:\>deltree C:\ are you sure? y/n: y BEEP!
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 28, 2000 06:54 PM i doubt a corvett can outrun a heli. man. they can go like 150, 200 and maybe MAYBE a cycle would get that fast but you have to remember that a cycle has to follow the road while a heli can take the shortest route possible. so even if you get a cycle that goes 250 you will not be able to get it that fast on a street with cars and if you do you still have to wind and weave ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
m3nth Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 06:58 PM first of all, uss3cs, you have too much free time on your hands, go get a job at mcdonalds or somethin. second of all, you cannot screw the police over unless you disappear very quickly. once you have a helicopter following you, you are definitely screwed. to think that you could possibly shoot them out is stupid and to think that you can outrun a helicopter is also stupid unless you can disappear as i said earlier. and if it happens to be at night you are especially screwed as they have thermal imaging mounted on the choppers. if you were to use bikes to get away you would have to hit and run and dissappear within a few blocks to a safe-house or garage or somethin. otherwise... cops have these nifty little things called radios. having a scanner might help you but your ideas are so far fetched it's highly unlikely you would be successful. ~m3nth~
uss3cs Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 08:10 PM a 1956 Stock Corvette did 160 MPH top speed the year it came out. a brand new 2000 can do 210. and good point dlwdaw, just turn around and mow those motha fuckas down! think about it if a cop can see you. you can shoot him. if he can idenfty theres 2 people on the bike you can make Every single bullet you fire out of a gun count if you know what you doing. taunt the chopper, send up a few rounds or contact him by radio and say, if you do not remove your self from this sceen right away i will fire apond you and there is nothing you can do to stop it other than leaving at our request. to much free time ? its nothing more than a overactive mind that needs to be tapped for some thing more usefull than ideas of Terrorism is all. even i can see that.
Ho ju Moderator	posted January 28, 2000 09:02 PM IF YOU GET A COPTER ON YOU...YOU ARE DONE! that is basicly all there is to it. they are fast, and can go anywhere and see just about anything. like m3nth said the only way to avoid getting caught is to get away as quick as possible and HIDE! that is it. radios can outrun anything you have. and why do you keep thinking speed is the key? choppers can go just as fast... and if you think you can shoot a copter that is 200 feet in the air while you are screaming along at 200...it is next to immposible. so many people have tried it it is not even funny. rare is the thug who gets away from a heli. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted January 28, 2000 10:38 PM The helicopter can be up to a few hundred meters away and still be effective. All it has to be able to do is be able to see you. The only way to counter a helicopter is either to confuse it by moving through buildings or underground in sewers. Anybody notice how at NYC during their new years celebration that they welded the sewer grates down? ------------------ VeHeMT's Armoury

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