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Ho ju Moderator	posted January 25, 2000 10:13 PM Would anyone be able to tell me or provide me with any information on how (upon trpiping them) trip mines are detonated. Does the army use just a pin that holds back a spring or do they use more advanced methods? how about the vietcong during the vietnam war? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth [This message has been edited by Ho ju (edited January 25, 2000).]
Feticidal Fantasy Frequent Poster	posted February 10, 2000 12:24 AM Use a mouse trap. Tie a string around the sensitive part of the trap, so that when the victim trips the string the trap snaps. Either afix a firing pin to the trap arm, or tape a BB to the top of a primer. Have the trap snap down apon a primer. This could be attached to a pipe bomb, or a 55 gallon drum of ANNM. ------------------ Feticidal Fantasy- http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/feticidal/ "Keep your gun as your constant companion."
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 10, 2000 03:15 PM if memory serves i think i was talking about military grade trip mines. (sorry for the confusion ) ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
Dr.Totte unregistered	posted February 11, 2000 02:26 AM Trip mines encompass a whole shotload of firing mechanisms, but usually are as simple as fishing wire attached to a grenade saftey pin- bad guy kicks wire, pin gets pulled, spoon kicks off 3-5 sec.s & blammo, mommies fav is now hopalong boy....variations include grenade in coffe can.. if your interested in a commercial trigger, US cavalry has a trip detonater that when set off emits either a flash bang or shrieky type thang- claymores n' other cool hiprofile low drag shit are usually pressure sensitive or most commonly manually(Remote) discharged.
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 11, 2000 03:38 PM gracias mi amigo ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
Dave the Rave Frequent Poster	posted February 11, 2000 11:39 PM Did you saw a firing device used to detonate a explo like cordite ? So, it works at the same maner, a firinf pin, a strong coil, 2 caps and a copper or aluminium tube... first, drill a hole in one cap to fit the firing pin. drill a hole in the rear of the firing pin to fit the security pin which is your trigger. again drill a hole in the front of the firing pin to fit another piece of metal which will secure the spring in place. fix a compound detonator to the other cap and it to the tube, fill it with rdx or other primmer,fix the firing pin in place, without the security pin, pass it throug the spring and put the spring inside of the tube. when it is done, atach the cap with te firing mechanism in the tube, with the front of the firing pin pointed to the compound detonator. carefuly, pull the rear of the firing pin and secure it in place with the security pin. you have a kiling device...... to use it, make a claymore, fix the firing device inside of it, tie a wire to the security pin and the other end to a bush or tree so the wire is set on the path of the enemy. when they pass throug, the wire is kicked, pulled the security pin, which release the firing pin detonating the mine.... got it ? Dave. ------------------ All revolutions have been fought on the basis of ideals; However through the sands of time and the intoxication of power these ideals have become lost. who knows the past win the future, who command the present conquers the past.
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 12:32 PM Thanks man ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
Dave the Rave Frequent Poster	posted February 13, 2000 12:00 AM I hope it helps: \|+++++++++++++++++++++++\| \|$$$$$...{* * * * * * * \| \|@@@@@<=={=====A=\|== \|$$$$$...{ * * * * * \| \|+++++++++++++++++++++++\| Glossary: \|: Cap +: Tube $: Rdx or equivalent @: mini compound <: Front of firing pin =: Firing pin {: Piece tO hold spring : Spring .: dont mind, it's just to the ansi dont reformat on post A: Point to drill a hole to fit the trigger,where the spring has enough recoill to fire the detonator now you got it ? ( man i hate ANSI ) ------------------ All revolutions have been fought on the basis of ideals; However through the sands of time and the intoxication of power these ideals have become lost. who knows the past win the future, who command the present conquers the past. [This message has been edited by Dave the Rave (edited February 13, 2000).]
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 13, 2000 12:12 AM to tell you the truth i got it fromt he get go. i just wanted to know if the military did it a certain way i guess they do it the plain old way that i knew of anyhow. but they use things like rdx instead of AP or BP... I wish i had there resources. does anyone else have any ideas for trip mines or are they all basicly the same. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth [This message has been edited by Ho ju (edited February 13, 2000).]
Survivor Frequent Poster	posted February 13, 2000 06:57 AM Ho ju, you should read FM 20-32 Mine Countermine Operations if you want more information on trip mines. ------------------ /Survivor Survivor@netlimit.com ------------------
catch22 Frequent Poster	posted February 14, 2000 08:11 PM Dave, springs work better in compression than in tension for the application you've described. catch 22
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 14, 2000 09:16 PM a spring held back by a pin with a loop on the end of it. the loop attached to the wire and when the wire is tripped the spring (of course attached to a firing pin) shoots forward because the pin holding it back is pulled and the firing pin hits the primer which ignites the AP or HMTD blasting cap...this setup is gold -here is a setup with a 12 guage shell as the main explosive device ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth [This message has been edited by Ho ju (edited February 14, 2000).]
Dave the Rave Frequent Poster	posted February 14, 2000 11:23 PM In matter of fact, i draw it with the spring being compressed against the rear cap and the metal in front of the firing pin, but, like i say before, I HATE That damn fucking ASII, and the forum server doesn't help so mutch deturping my draw as it made. Dave. ------------------ All revolutions have been fought on the basis of ideals; However through the sands of time and the intoxication of power these ideals have become lost. who knows the past win the future, who command the present conquers the past.
nbk2000 Moderator	posted March 03, 2000 09:06 PM I found this drawing in a catalog I had. Thought it would clarify things. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Ho ju Moderator	posted March 04, 2000 12:04 AM yes i have seen that desing before. i am mainly interested in US military mines and things of the like ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
nbk2000 Moderator	posted March 04, 2000 04:18 AM I know what kind of device your talking about, but info on them is near impossible to find on the net. I did see an interesting device though called a PDM (persuit Denial Munition) used by SF. They toss it behind them and in about 2 seconds it shoots out 4 wires in an X pattern. When enemy troops get near, BOOM! I'm thinking it uses a proximity detection circuit that self-zeros and then detects changes after a short time delay. I've found all the componet circuitry for making the proximity fuse I posted months back except for the DC to AC conversion circuit. And not a 2 transistor DC oscillator either, a true AC circuit. I have the comparator, voltage regulator, and timing circuit. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Predator Frequent Poster	posted March 04, 2000 07:31 AM Oh I see..... Nbk2000 you looking for a rectifier circuit? In a normal transformer, just remove the full wave rectifier/bridge rectifier circuit and you have a ac power supply which you can control using a variable potentiometer. :/ funny we should be making those things now in electronics

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