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Topic: monochloro aceticacid!!! (nitromethane)
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Fjp92 Frequent Poster
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posted March 11, 2000 04:06 PM
Can some one please tell me how can i make mone chloro acetic acid from acetic acid??That is if its possable. I wanna use it to make nitromethane. Below is the recipe for NM And a prosess to make acetic acid from some vinigar and other stuff.Nitromethane [1]Dissolve 50g of mono-chloroacetic acid in 100 ml water contained in a 500 ml round-bottomed bolt-head flask, and then neutralise the solution by the cautious addition of 30g of finely powdered anhydrous sodium carbonate. For this purpose, add the sodium carbonate in small quantities (about 1g) at a time, preferably with the aid of a spatula, and shake the solution gently around after each addition to facilitate the evolution of carbon dioxide: a clear solution is thus maintained throughout, whereas the rapid addition of large quantities of the carbonate produces lumps of material which are subsequently difficult to dissolve. Now dissolve 36.5g of sodium nitrite in 50 ml of water with gentle heating, cool the solution thoroughly in icewater, and then add it with shaking to that of the sodium monochloroacetate. Add some fragments of unglazed porcelain, and then fit the flask with a delivery-tube of moderately wide bore connected in turn to a water-condenser. Support the flask over a gauze, and then heat it gently with a small Bunsen flame. The solution slowly becomes yellow in colour, then greenish and finally a yellowish-brown, when a vigorous effervescence starts: at once remove the Bunsen flame, and allow the reaction to proceed spontaneously, carbon dioxide being evolved and the solution boiling vigorously. When the reaction subsides, replace the Bunsen flame and maintain a steady boiling. Nitromethane distills over in the steam and separates as a colourless oil at the bottom of the distillate: since nitromethane is slightly soluble in water, stop the distillation as soon as drops of nitromethane can no longer be detected in the distillate leaving the condenser. Transfer the distillate to a separating- funnel, and carefully run off the lower layer of nitromethane and then dry it over anhydrous sodium sulfate for 30 minutes. Filter the dry nitromethane (preferably through a small dry Buchner funnel), transfer it to a 30 ml. distilling-flask fitted with a water-condenser, and then slowly distill, collecting the fraction of bp 100-102°C. In view of the small volume of nitromethane to be manipulated, if a small Buchner funnel is not available, it is advisable to extract the crude nitromethane from the aqueous distillate with ether (30-40ml). Dry the ethereal extract over sodium sulfate, filter through a fluted filter-paper, and then distill off the ether on a water-bath, and finally distill the residual nitromethane. Nitromethane is obtained as a colourless liquid, of bp 101°C and d 1.10, yield, 10 g. acetic acid 1. Buy the strong 9% vinegar for making pickles. Choose the clear kind, not the Red Wine or other flavored varieties. 2. Neutralize with lye. Just add lye until no more bubbling/fizzing. This will leave you with an aqueous solution of Sodium Acetate. 3. Evaporate the solution to recover solid sodium acetate salt. 4. Make a solution of dilute H2SO4. 5. Mix the acid with the sodium acetate. This will give you a solution of Sodium Sulfate and acetic acid. 6. Distill to collect the acetic acid. The azeotrope comes at 107C and pure comes over at 118. Collect between 105 and 120 or dryness (whichever comes first) 7. If you need it to be relatively free of water (near glatial) then dry it and redistill collecting between 115ish and 120.
Notice( number 4: It say use dilute, dont know why, id rather use consentrated.
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uberchlor unregistered
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posted March 12, 2000 01:40 AM
Can some one please tell me how can i make mone chloro acetic acid from acetic acid??That is if its possable.-->Yes! it's possible! Chloroacetic acid or monochloroacetic acid (ClH2C-COOH) colorless to light-brownish, corrosive, crystals. which is very soluble in water and other organic solvents. Melting point (3 modifications): 63 C, 56 C, 53 C. Boiling point: 188 C. Prep.: -through chlorination of glacial acetic acid in the presence of catalytic amounts of sulfuric acid or iodine. -by action of chlorine on acetic acid in the presence of acetic anhydride, phosphorus, or sulfur. since the addition of chlorine on organic compounds is a dangerous process that could be a violent reaction, one would definatley only experiment in small quantities, especially since chlorine is very poisonous. And since i donot know the exact process of what makes these reactions go someone else who does know would have to enlighten us...
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nbk2000 Moderator
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posted March 12, 2000 03:52 AM
Here's a reference I have.============================================= Dry chlorine is led into a mixture of 150 g. of glacial acetic acid and 12 g. of red phosphorus contained in a flask (Fig. 47, p. 104), which is provided with a delivery tube and a reflux condenser and is heated on a vigorously boiling water bath. The flask should stand in a well-lit place, preferably in direct sunlight, since the rate of chlorination greatly depends on the illumination. As soon as a small portion of the mixture solidifies when cooled with ice-water and rubbed with a glass rod, the reaction is complete. In summer one day suffices, but on dull winter days the passing in of chlorine must be continued for a second day. To isolate the monochloroacetic acid the product of the reaction is fractionally distilled from a flask fitted with an air condenser; the fraction which passes over at 150”-200” is separately collected in a beaker. The beaker is cooled with ice-water while its contents are stirred with a glass rod and the portion which solidifies, consisting of pure monochloroacetic acid, is rapidly filtered at the pump; the loose crystals are firmly compressed with a spatula or pestle. The filtration must not be continued too long or the chloroacetic acid will gradually be liquefied by the heat of the air. The filtrate is redistilled, the portion passing over between 170” and 200” being separately collected. By repetition of the process just described (cooling and filtering) a second portion of monochloroacetic acid is obtained. It is combined with the main portion and the whole is completely purified by a further distillation; b.p. 186”, m.p. 63", yield, variable : 80-125 g. Used for the prepara-tion of nitromethane (p. 156), diethyl malonate (p. 254), glycine (p. 275), phenylglycine (p. 369). Since monochloroacetic acid, especially when warm, attacks the skin severely, care is indicated. The chlorination proceeds considerably more rapidly, and also in the absence of light, if 1.5 g. of iodine, 7 g. of phosphorus pentachloride, and 3 g. of red phosphorus are added to the 150 g. of glacial acetic acid mentioned above.2 When the reaction is over, the hot mixture is de-canted from the phosphorus, diluted with 40 c .c of glacial acetic acid, and cooled. The monochloroacetic acid which crystaliises is rapidly filtered and washed with a little glacial acetic acid. In this way a pale red product results, which is freed from adherent iodine by stand-ing in a desiccator over potassium hydroxide. 1 R. Hoffmann, annalen, 1857, 102, 1; Russanow, Ber., 1892, 25, Rd. 334. 2 H. Briickner, Z. angew. Chem., 1927,40, 973; 1928, 41, 226. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
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uberchlor unregistered
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posted March 13, 2000 09:15 PM
Too bad red phosphorus is not one of the easiest, nor cheapest chemical to get one can also try using sulfur flowers in place of the red phosphorus, and sulfuric acid in place of the iodine, but since sulfuric acid has the capability of reaction violently with some other compounds.... great care must be taken in its incorporation.
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uberchlor unregistered
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posted March 13, 2000 09:18 PM
Reaction = reacting.
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megalomania Administrator
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posted March 25, 2000 05:34 PM
It is best to use red P for this reaction, but sulfur is a lot easier to obtain. One note, this reaction will produce di-, and trichloroacetic acid over time. It is best to avoid letting this go too long, periodically removing a portion of the reaction mixture and distilling it can help.------------------ Visit Megalomania's Explosives and Stuff at http://surf.to/megalomania
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