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Y2KILL
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posted January 28, 2000 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Y2KILL     
Anyone here has the knowledge to create a simple digital watch timed detonation device from cheap brand watches such as Timex? If so, please give information such as a step-by-step instruction (also what need to be used to construct such project), a diagram would help a bunch.

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Y2KILL


m3nth
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posted January 29, 2000 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3nth   Click Here to Email m3nth     
i have the knowledge to build one and make it work but i couldn't give you step by step instructions without doing it myself first. the idea is very simple and straightforward so i could explain it but for people (like you i would assume) who don't know anything about such things it would still be impossible to build one even if you had the general idea. there are better ways to build timers but i'll try and give you an overview.

the output of the watch timer goes to the speaker with a small electrical signal to drive the beeper when the alarm goes off. this signal can be tapped by taking the watch apart and connecting to the right wire. it will actually be necessary to connect to two wires inside the watch, the signal output for the beeper and the ground of the battery (the minus side). these two wires you will have to connect some type of circuit to amplify and/or latch on a signal from the watch. this would be extremely simple circuitry but like i said earlier, although i could probably make one if i had to, i haven't so i can't really give you instructions. the difference between making something you think will work and actually getting it to work is usually quite a few hours of tinkering around with different ideas till it actually does what you want it to.

latching circuitry would consist of an scr or transistor along with a relay if the transistor wasn't enough to drive your output (ie it couldn't handle enough current to cause heating in a filament that would be used as your detonator). to make this work you would also probably have to use a nine volt battery or set of D cells. a simple timer with the external circuitry i would think you could fit in a decent sized pill bottle as far as size is concerned. as far as cost is concerned it would most likely cost less than $5.

how is all of that for a bunch of mumbo jumbo. if anyone is actually trying to make one of these things work and can't get it to let me know. if you just want step by step plans, too bad you're outta luck from this old man. i am not too sure what the standard procedure of posting diagrams here either hence no diagram.

~m3nth~


m3nth
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posted January 29, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3nth   Click Here to Email m3nth     

ok i think maybe i can get pictures inserted now. that is the first design i would try and go with. the scr turns on when it gets a small signal on the gate and will remain on (it latches) as long as there is power applied on the anode or positive terminal. if you have an scr that will handle enough current for the filament you are using, the watch alarm will go off, the scr will switch on and current will flow through the filament causing it to heat and detonate your primary explosive. the filament could be a simple christmas light or a sturdier nichrome wire or rocket ignitor.

hope this helps the visualization of things.

~m3nth~

VeHeMT
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posted January 29, 2000 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeHeMT   Click Here to Email VeHeMT     
Would the electrical current from a watches alarm be sufficient for a very small relay? If so it would just aswell be another suitable option.

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m3nth
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posted January 29, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3nth   Click Here to Email m3nth     
no the electrical current from a watch won't drive any type of relay unless you found one very specialized which of course means higher cost. that's why you run it through an scr or transistor. if either of those could not handle the current required to go through the filament you could put a relay in and have the scr or transistor drive the relay and the relay drive the filament. direct drive of a relay though with the signal from the watch won't work.

~m3nth~

VeHeMT
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posted January 29, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeHeMT   Click Here to Email VeHeMT     
Ok, thanks for telling me, thats one less combination to try.


Dr-D
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posted February 02, 2000 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr-D     
Yup, that's how to do it, as for getting a cheap watch with alarm, it will probably cost $10 minimum for the watch. You can get electronic digital kitchen/lab timers for about the same price. I think they used to be cheaper. But a kitchen/lab timer is usualy easier to find the wires that go to the peizo speaker since the whole thing is bigger.

BTW m3nth, what are the easier ways to build timed devises? I know there probably is, but I am at a blank right now.

spiceboy
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posted February 17, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spiceboy   Click Here to Email spiceboy     
SWIM told me the micronta radio shack travel alarms have enough juice for a small relay
but anythin like a watch use an opto- relay (sp?)
takes almost nothing to activate them simple cheap and effective ...so I was
told

another neat thing is the remote control devices sold in nuts and volts magazine for under 20 bucks for the receiver and transmitter and the recvr. has a realy in it!
also, they are coded so no falsings- hate when that happens!
but be sure to reset all dipswitches and so forth and the same on radio shack stuff since
they record all that nonsense to back-trace the buyer if needed (radio shack anyway)


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