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BoB- Frequent Poster	posted May 18, 2000 10:26 AM hello everyone, I need a suggestion for a device which looks innocent but can be used as a device to stop a attacker at my high school(I want to graduate this year!) all attemps at a miniature cannon that fits in side a marker have failed, a devise that fires a .22 bullet would be perfect but I dont know much about bullet pressure's or velocity's a miniature device that fires a projectile or a miniature explosive device that fits inside a calcuator or a pen/marker is what I need any suggestions? ------------------ Look Ma No Hands! (there over by the shed)
Foxtrot83 Frequent Poster	posted May 18, 2000 12:55 PM Read NBK's archive and you should get some good ideas. You could make a blasting cap with a metal pen top or turn the whole pen into a bomb. ------------------ ~Foxtrot83~ Semper Fi
nbk2000 Moderator	posted May 18, 2000 05:18 PM Does your school require that you pass through a metal detector? Also, locker searches or search dogs? Do they have video cameras? After all, if you use the weapon you could be prosecuted yourself for having a weapon at school since it is a federal offense now to have a gun on school property. Never mind that you killed the killer, they will bust you. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." Search the archive before you ask. http://members.xoom.com/forumlibrary
BoB- Frequent Poster	posted May 18, 2000 05:35 PM no, they have no security gaurds no metal detectors, no nothing thats what makes me feel like my school is a target ------------------ Look Ma No Hands! (there over by the shed)
green beret Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 10:15 AM What about a derringer of some sort? [This message has been edited by green beret (edited May 19, 2000).]
green beret Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 10:22 AM would you have the guts to stab him?(if yes then you'd soon find out if he had the guts or not hehe)If so then consider a concealed knife. Better still get an old drink bottle(a non see through one) and fill it full of AP putty, put some bb's in it and then all you do is chuck it at his feet just before the fuse is about to run out. I'll get back to you soon with some better ideas.
BoB- Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 11:29 AM I'd have the guts to stab him but he might kill me before that happens or I could stab him and miss a nerve and he may still have the energy to pull the trigger, then more people would die which would be bad ------------------ Look Ma No Hands! (there over by the shed)
HydraShock Frequent Poster	posted May 19, 2000 04:29 PM Why don't you just make a zip gun? It's not that difficult, and could be concealed. Also, you could probably make a silencer for it.
Ho ju Moderator	posted May 19, 2000 08:38 PM any and all of these ideas would get you in so much trouble it would not even be funny. you might become a hero for stopping a shooter but the mere fact that you carried in any type of weapon would get you fucked royaly. I would suggest silent tactics like sneaking up behind him/her when he/she is blasting away and club him with something (over the head or hit the hand he is using to shoot) maybe you could use a shoe if it was a big one. a chair maybe, a desk if you are stong enough. all these would get your prainsed but not suspended. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted May 20, 2000 03:40 AM The probability that you'll ever need to use a weapon to stop a school attacker is tiny. Despite what the media may portray, school attacks are VERY rare. But, if you must have a weapon. make sure that it is such that if anyone finds it they won't recognize it as a weapon since it is more likely that a teacher or fellow student will find it. And the weapon doesn't have to be lethal, just disabling. Hot pepper juice in a real lemon bottle looks harmless and can be called a food flavoring. But sprayed in the eyes it's an effective mace. An ice pick hidden inside a pen with something else to use as a handle can be used effectively. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." Search the archive before you ask. http://members.xoom.com/forumlibrary
BaDSeeD Frequent Poster	posted May 24, 2000 02:06 AM I remember seeing an impromptu weapon used in my school days that could never be banned from the schools. And from what i saw... it turned out to be very very effective. It was a 6 pound history book! The guy held it in two hands and swung it like a baseball bat. Worked pretty damned well from what i saw. The simple point i am getting at here is this... you dont need to carry a weapon to defend yourself. There are multitudes of weapons around you wherever you go. Leaving clubs and missiles alone for the moment (vitually anything can be used as a club, or thrown as a missile). Just look at what you may normally carry... the strap from your duffle bag, boot laces, belt, elastic band from your underwear that was just torn off from the last wedgie you got... all can be used like a garotte, or tied to something heavy (coffee cup, stapler, etc) and swung like a club, heck even one at both endes and used like half assed nunchucks (sp). The steel tubing on the chairs you sit on... hold a chair on the desk, with one leg sticking out over the side, and put all your weight on that one leg. It'll probably break off, leaving you a sharp ended shank for a stabbing implement. The steel yard sticks that a lot of classes have .. especially drafting classes and shop classes... they may not be very sharp, but when swung at someone... they do damage like a dulled machette. Glass from windows, aquariums, etc etc etc... all can be used to slice with. Get the point? There are weapons everywhere around you... all appear innocent enough.. but when a little quick thinking is used, they can become life savers. BaDSeeD ------------------ Knowledge is the true power, ignorance will bring your demise.
BaDSeeD Frequent Poster	posted May 24, 2000 02:11 AM AHHH Prime example... the movie from last year! THE FACULTY Yeah yeah.. stupid movie where the teachers were aliens... yada yada.. Anyhow... the part where the one badass rips the cutter arm off the paper cutter. Made a pretty good sword/hatchet. Now thats quick thinking ... and was a hell of a good idea. BaDSeeD ------------------ Knowledge is the true power, ignorance will bring your demise.
SofaKing Frequent Poster	posted May 24, 2000 12:55 PM Badseed that scene was cool Also in my schol they leave two jugs of cremora lying around for their coffee, hmm what could that be used for . Any one seen the movie the langoliers, one guy makes a kick ass black jack with a bed sheet and a toaster ouch. ------------------ insert witty remark here
Maddoc Frequent Poster	posted May 24, 2000 01:26 PM A bar of soap in a sock or towel would cane. ------------------ Whoa, where my fingers?
bodden A New Voice	posted May 28, 2000 09:28 PM hmm.. you stop the killer.. and than your kicked out of school for carrying a lethal weapon? doesn't make sense now does it? what you could do is take a glass bottle (similar to a beer bottle) but something like Cream Soda or Rootbeer and keep it in your locker. If a problem ever arises you can just grab the throat of the bottle, it the bottem on a locker shelf and you have a decent weapon. this way if you waste the dick your not in trouble. ------------------ i atleast have 1 finger.. err..
Mmanwitgun Frequent Poster	posted May 29, 2000 12:39 AM You can use anything. Fill a sock with change, die a knot in it right above the coins and boom, you have a blackjack. You could burn the fucker with a crack lighter (For those who don't know a crack lighter is a adjustable flame lighter altered to make a 6 or so inch flame). Steel toed boots are legal and they can fuck anyone up. A .22 zip gun disguised as a zippo or a pen would be best but I don't have plans for these. You could just carry a pocket knife around like me, but I don't think you need to worry about a school shooter. ~Dave
ClintonxSucks Frequent Poster	posted May 30, 2000 10:39 PM Bud K egded catalog sells small pepper sprayer that looks extactly like a pen. However, if i was gona get that close to someone with a gun, id rather stab them with a real pen.
SofaKing Frequent Poster	posted May 30, 2000 10:46 PM This post has just become a lot more relevant to my life... literally !! Someone in my school wrote some graffiti and it's sopose to go down on june 1st. I probably just won't go to school that day, but what to do if I did go would be a help. I think bringing in an obvious weapon in would be a no no as the cops are going to be there. But without even a small somthing I'll feel naked. There's no way I'm following our schools drill witch is to turn of the lights and stay in the classroom like a sitting duck what a joke. This SUCKS !!!! ------------------ insert witty remark here
BaDSeeD Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 12:08 AM If anything big is supposed to happen at your school... here's some advice that might help. You've no doubt heard the saying "there is saftey in numbers". Well the way i see it... larger numbers make for a better target. I'd take off on my own if i had no capability to fight back. For example... if i were trying to make a statement by killing students with a bomb, grenade, or assault rifle... i wouldnt waste the explosive, or ammo on a single person.... i'd use it on the crowd. Makes sense to go off on your own now dosn't it? BaDSeeD ------------------ Knowledge is the true power, ignorance will bring your demise.
BoB- Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 12:58 AM well I kinda liked the one with the bottle but I would keep it in my bookbag if I were you. I got one though, you could tape(lighly) 2 thin glass vials togeher one filled with chlorine bleach and one filled with Ammonia then just throw near his feet and in the confusion run out the door or stab him with a "PVC knife" described here a while back (in this one he could still easilly shoot you especially if a vial didnt break)of course you could always bring along one of those paintball smoke grenades that strike like flares allowing you and some of your classmates to escape but you would definatly get in trouble for this one. or buy a ceramic gun from germany, but youll probably have to sell your house to afford it. ------------------ Look Ma No Hands! (there over by the shed)
BoB- Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 01:13 AM wow, wow, wow, wait a minute there actually running drills and the drill is to stay in the classroom? oh man. I'm glad we dont do that in my high school I wouldnt be able to stop laughing. cause we all know that, the balsa-wood door that slams shut when the teacher opens a window would definatly stop an armed attacker. I would be the first one OUT the door because they have this real thick wire on the outside of all our windows so if you shut the door and locked it and waited for him to come to you, you would pretty much be nailing your own coffin shut. I saw this thing about a video on "Extra" where the kids are using the fire extinguisher a smoke screen (chuckle) and flipping tables come on I broke one of these table's in a fight when I was thrown on to it. and hiding in bathroom stalls, those things have deep dents in them from where BOOKS hit them I can only imagine how easy there making it for the school shooters. thats my mindless rant ------------------ Look Ma No Hands! (there over by the shed)
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 11:33 AM Listen, if someone was going to attack a school, why would they announce it to the world? It would make their goals much more impossible with police present. The only reason why they did it was so that they could scare people. Use your heads people.
Foxtrot83 Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 02:12 PM Exactly, none of the other school shootings was announced, (Columbine, Jonesboro, blah, blah, blah). Only a complete moron would announce that and then pull it off (or try to!) and if it comes down to it improvise. I know if something was to happen in my school the first place I'm heading is my chemistry room, or wherever chemicals are kept and then concoct something (kno3+sugar=smoke, etc...) Who knows you just might end up the hero of the school, and we'll see you on T.V. for it. ------------------ ~Foxtrot83~ Semper Fi
Digital Thief Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 06:18 PM Actually I think the Columbine incident was announced on their AOL webpage (heh AOL figures doesn't it). I never got to see it since the FBI promptly removed it from what I know at least. Seriously though, all this talk of taking weapons to school is really useless. First off, lets be realistic, I would love to be a hero too but how many of us who are in high school have ever been in a combat situation, and even if you have, what makes you think that having a boot knife or something on you is going to save your ass. Must I remind you all what the trench coat mofo's were carrying? Your best bet is run your ass off. If there is no other choice but to fight then improvise. Here's a little exercise. Tommorrow at school look around in each class for at least three things that would make good deadly weapons. Heh my imagination ran wild in the science lab and in gym, thats for sure. Thats better then any knife or chemical. Just a thought...
Mmanwitgun Frequent Poster	posted May 31, 2000 07:49 PM SofaKing, nothing is probably going to happen. It is all trash talk. A few months ago someone in my school wrote some shit in feces on the bathroom wall. No one knows what it was because as always, people spreaded so many rumors about what it said that I don't know what it said. People did say it was that the school will get shot up. What you heard was probably some gossipy bullshit. Last year the cops called me into the station because they thought I would shoot up the school (The only fucking gun I have is a crappy .22 zip gun whichs parts are scattered around my house). That just shows rumors spread. At least school shootings scare the norms off. I made 2 kids freak out a week or so after columbine because they were staring at me so I reached into my jacket fast and pretended to take out a gun, you should have seen the looks on their face. A good way to distract him without being able to get caught with a weapon would be to carry a bag o' sand and huck it in the fuckers eyes. Another thing, don't listen to your school drill, sure it seems all nice in plan but when gun and bombs go off in school everyone including the teachers will ditch the plan and follow their own action. Each man for himself. ~Dave

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