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Fjp92 Frequent Poster	posted February 11, 2000 04:41 PM Just for the ones who want to know. I tried the method of making chloroform on nbk2000's page. It worked fine theres is just 2 things to look out for:1 Make sure you have a lot of extra ice 2 the blot chloroform at the bottom is a mixture of chloroform and white shit, so it looks like only white shit and you dont see the blot chloroform but only something that look like a poweder that have settled down.
Fjp92 Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 02:22 PM Need to know something?? I decided to put my chloroform to the test. I inhaled about 6 times from the jar. The stuff made me high.. And it dit NOT knock me out. So i inhaled some more and i only got higher... and it dot not knock me out. When i inhaled through my mouth, i got a sweet taste on my tong. Does this mean that this is not chloroform but something els? What ever it is it is pure. I disteleld it and then washed out any possable traces of acetone( altough i dont think there was any, i made sure the hypochloride was in exess.) any comments???
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 02:34 PM what "kind" of high did you get? was it one that was like you had just huffed gas? cause just about any solvent will do that to you. or was it another feeling? ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 03:09 PM I've tested out chloroform on myself as well in the past and it's basically impossible to knock yourself out with it since you become too stupified (high) to hold the rag to your face till your unconcious. But if someone else is doing it then that's a different story. Also, your breathing at a calm rate, try it after you've done a 100 yard dash. That's how hard a victim would be breathing. This isn't the kind of thing you want to be playing with. It's toxic, can cause liver failure, cancer, all kinds of bad shit. Use it on someone else, not yourself. Also, you need to keep your chloroform in a dark bottle (brown glass like a beer bottle),in a cool place, and add about 1% of the chloroforms volume of distilled ethyl alcohol to stabilize it. If you don't, phosgene will start forming inside the bottle from decomposition. And one inhalation of the tainted chloroform WILL kill you within the day. Even just opening the bottle can be dangerous. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 03:17 PM How long will the phosgene take to form from the decompisition? if you think about it that has MANY uses. if it works as easy as you suggested, it is a mush easier way then explained on your sight. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 03:32 PM It depends on many factors. But a concentration high enough to kill you when your breathing the chloroform from a rag wouldn't take more than a month or 2 if the bottle is half full and exposed to the sun. The amount of phosgene that can be generated by spontaneous decomposition isn't enough to use as a CW, but it will be enough to kill you. That's not a good thing. The instructions on my site are more suitable to making phosgene for use as a weapon. The acid acts as a catalyst to accelerate the decomposition to a useful level. Nothing in life worth having comes easy. And if I'm not mistaken, I had posted a reply to fjp92s begining post and now it's gone. Did you delete it? Or maybe I fucked up on the posting. Oh well. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 03:38 PM if you are talking to me then no. i only have limited control over impro weapons and besides everything i have read in this post belongs here anywyay (and now that i think about it i do not think i have seen any other posts than the ones here rght now. i do not think anything got deleted). Well what i am thinking is you make like 5 gallons of the chloroform (the actual chloroform, done in like a huge 55 gallon drum) and then store it in a glass or plastic container outside during the summer for about a month. then when you are all set bring it into a buildings lobby in the middle of the day and open up the top...use a fan to spread it and shit. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth [This message has been edited by Ho ju (edited February 12, 2000).]
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 04:50 PM I was about to say that chloroform was carcinogenic, but nbk pointed that out and many other things.
Dave the Rave Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 11:06 PM so I don't fing the phosfogene recipe on nbk2000's site ! did I came to the wrong or old url ? what is the rigth, can anyone tell me ? Dave. ------------------ All revolutions have been fought on the basis of ideals; However through the sands of time and the intoxication of power these ideals have become lost. who knows the past win the future, who command the present conquers the past.
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 13, 2000 11:13 AM Since I don't currently have my website up since I'm rebuilding it, go to http://briefcase.yahoo.com/nbk2k and download the latest version of my websites PDF copy. The phosgene synth is there. It's a 4Meg download. While leaving a bottle of the chloroform out in sunlight will cause conversion, the chloroform will only converted by about 1% into phosgene. If the chloroform where dripped on something hot like an electric radiator element then that would be much more effective. That same 5 gallons converted using the acid process would make several gallons of liquified phosgene. The lethalness would be at least 50 times greater that way. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 14, 2000 05:29 PM Here's a URL from my post in a topic in the improvised weapons section called "Chem. Weapons" started by Ho Ju (12/20/99) detailing the spontaneous formation of phosgene in chloroform. http://research.nwfsc.noaa.gov/protocols/chloroform.html ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 15, 2000 11:10 PM If anyone needs reagent chloroform for 'peaceful purposes I have nearly a gallon I dont need- fresh. I would need ot know it is within the law to sell it to whomever though...better to be rid of it than let it jsut sit and go bad

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