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spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 10, 2000 12:17 PM My friend has a cabin in the sticks- a rather secluded area- and he has been plagued by a couple wild dogs who attacked his chickens and goats and his garbage... Since he is so far out there isnt much he can do except take care of theproblem himself. Is there a good POTENT poison that can be easily made from commmon obtainable items and that WONT leave an odor so he can package it within meat or food the wild dogs would eat. Thanks
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 10, 2000 03:13 PM anti freeze will do the job VERY nicley. just leave it in a bowl outside and the dogs will drink it. it is extremely poisones to dogs but it smells sweet and tastes sweet to them so they will down it nicely. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
Raze Frequent Poster	posted February 10, 2000 07:15 PM A box of chocolates will take care of those dogs, although antifreeze will probably be cheaper. Use cheap chocolate, dogs love it and it kills them fairly efficiently, my Uncle's neighbor left a box of "Andes" brand mints out, a dog ate them all and died on the spot. I thought it sucked, but in your friend's case, you have to do what best suits the situation.
spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 10, 2000 08:25 PM The antifreeze was tried to no avail. They didnt touch it! Chocolates!?! Are you serious? I heard there is a rust remover to behad that can be evaped and used in meat...is this so? I love dogs but htese wild predators are bloodthirsty and attack domestic animals and livestock--very wary as well- see them briefly at night only- then back into the thickets
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 10, 2000 09:35 PM yeah suprisingly chocolates are very posionous to alot of animals. i know of dogs and cats. but i am sure there are others. yeah a decent size box of discount month old chocolate will do the trick. buy it the day after valetines day to get a good discount ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted February 11, 2000 12:13 AM Actually I have never seen this work. But I have been told that it is true. I have seen 2 or 3 dogs eat chocolate and not die or even get sick. One ate an entire bag of halloween chocolates and it aws a very small dog too.
Feticidal Fantasy Frequent Poster	posted February 11, 2000 12:57 AM Why doesn't your friend just hunt them down with his rifle? That would be fun. Asprin is poisonious also. I tried to kill a cat with asprin, it ate it, but I don't know if it died because the damn thing broke out of it's cage and ran away.. ------------------ Feticidal Fantasy- http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/feticidal/ "Keep your gun as your constant companion."
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 11, 2000 03:37 AM Just right click on these links and choose "Save target as..". http://internettrash.com/users/nbk2000/weapons/homemadecyanide.pdf and http://internettrash.com/users/nbk2000/weapons/ricin.pdf . You may be able to view them directly if you have the acrobat plugin. I would just download them though. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Apathetic Frequent Poster	posted February 11, 2000 12:12 PM Here is another post on the forum about poison for dogs: http://theforum.virtualave.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000027.html
Ho ju Moderator	posted February 11, 2000 03:36 PM grabted ricin would put anything away. who in there right mind would go to all that trouble to make it just to kill two dogs if you can get other shit. ------------------ -Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!! http://members.xoom.com/Splynncryth
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 12:24 AM Practice my dear fellow. If you make a batch of ricin and it takes care of the 4 legged vermin, then you know it will work on 2 legged vermin as well. Besides which, ricin is so potent that the amount that would fit in the hollowpoint of an air gun pellet would be more than sufficent to take care of the pest. Then you don't have to worry about feeding it to them, just shoot them with it. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
Predator Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 06:30 AM Hmmm I read somewhere that chocolate contains Theobromine, a chemical from the xantines group of chemicals I think. This chemical is posionious to all animals and creatures, uncluding humans. But humans metabolism is slower than most animals and we would have to literally eat bucketloads of chocolate rather fast to even feel slightly ill. Dogs on the other hand have a much faster metabolism and break down the chocolate releasing the Theobromine into their systems much faster than they can get rid of it, it accumulates and they die. I heard Laxatives have a much better kill rate of killing dogs than does chocolate?
spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 02:07 PM Actually, the local farmers are trying to hunt them down but they only come out of the woods at night to wreck their havoc and the fact that they have a taste for blood and small livestock isn't making for happy locals. The officails think they may even be rabid- although I doubt it....they keep too well hidden I was thinking along the lines of a potent poison which could be inserted into bloody hamburger or the like and placed where they would eat it. I read on here a long time ago about a poison from an evaporated commercial rust remover compound which could be used-- but as an infrequent lurker I never did get the exact name or procedure down. Ricin sounds nice but I hear it is difficult to produce and stay safe doing it without extreme precautions. I do have some lab experience and so forth, but ricin sounds a bit tough! IS it really? I am very good at procuring what many others have trouble doing so
nbk2000 Moderator	posted February 12, 2000 02:17 PM The rust remover poison is located in the forum section that Apathetic posted a link to above. It one of my posts. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."
spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 12, 2000 06:37 PM Every time I do a search for poisons it jsut goes blank on me adn often locks-up .. otherwise I would have searched before I asked....
spiceboy Frequent Poster	posted February 15, 2000 10:53 PM Well, looks like my query went dead...but I do have more questions- if anyone cares to answer them- either way- thanks! I saw a ricin extraction setup on &totse bbs on the net but from reading it seemed it did not come up with a really pure product...what could be done to improve the end result? Also, seems the person who psoted it did not use many safety precautions at all --really surprised they put it up like that.. this is all for inof purposes only...I would never consider formulation of an illegal product... Also, the WInks rust remover must be a regional item since it is not available in these parts.....perhaps someone would be kind enough to tell me what active ingredient to look for
dlwdaw Frequent Poster	posted April 08, 2000 06:28 PM you got to read... he said sodium floride... ------------------ C:\>deltree C:\ are you sure? y/n: y BEEP!
Vpr Frequent Poster	posted April 09, 2000 05:47 AM Dogs are very smart, smarter than humans. First, there was a pack of wild dogs in the mountains where I lived. They came down the road one day. and my friend drew his Colt Dragoon and fired a few rounds in the air. Those dogs didn't like that. (Psychology- you can train dogs) Dogs can train humans: Mountain Rain Forest, raining, night time, complete darkness except for faint electro-magnetic fields from plants, actually I believe this is infrared glow, that humans may barely be able to sense in complete darkness, if they HAVE TO. Anyway, I went too far on the trail that day and here I am in the dark and can't see anything. I have my black lab with me who is as you might imagine, completely black, so he instinctively knows that I cannot see, So, what does he do? The Feds dogs shit right in the middle of the trail. My dog is smarter than that, thats why I won't tell you how he does it until I get an encryption program etc. Think about practicing things in the blind, like things that K-E have suggested to ya.
Vpr Frequent Poster	posted April 09, 2000 06:00 AM If you don't have a dog or don't need or want one (remember they are a lot of responsibility and a lone wolf like me, has to think about my dogs welfare, he is getting old.) Point is, go to an obedience school, watch, and listen to what the trainers tell their owners, or ask dog trainers, and you will learn what dogs respond to. Learn about psychology of dogs, or read something about it. sorry I am off topic I have had insomnia for a week or so. I don't do drugs, xcept some medical medicine I have to take.

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