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AfterRain
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posted May 06, 2000 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
What would be some good tips ?
Like what equ. would you bring ?
What guns/rifles what you use ?
Type of Car (or whatever) to get around in ?
Thanks !


AfterRain
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posted May 06, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
Well I would use ...
This would be my standard Equpment

Hand-Guns/Rifles/Shot-Guns Wise :
.308 Sniper Rifle
4 9mm Hand-guns
2 45 hand-guns
1 12gag Shot-gun
Equpment *
Extra Rounds for all guns
FlashLight
Phone tappin' tools
Fence Cutter's
Police Scanner
Ham radio
Cell Phone
FlashBangs
Smoke-bombs
Set(12) Throwin' Knive's
** Car **
Well It would all depends on the area ,But for in the US I would use a 4-door 3500 Gmc Dully**(With the 2 whells on each side of the truck in the rear(hope spelled right))
With a Fiber-Glass Cover for the "bed".And get a metal sheet in the bed thats place like 4" over the bed , to hide the BS !
** Tips **
Still thinkin' of some still !

[This message has been edited by AfterRain (edited May 06, 2000).]

DaRkDwArF
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posted May 07, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
hmmm, knowing me, I'd use the sewers for my escape, depends on what kind of assasination, I'd prolly poision the mark, by bribing his chef, or inserting the poison myself, if I couldn'y do it that way I'd probably get the mark in his sleep, I'd only pack a Silenced .45 , Extra Rounds, Filtered Flashlight, Flashbangs, Smoke Bombs, Suppressed Grappling Hook, First Aid kit (Alot of people forget this one and It helps to have one) and If I could get my hands on one a fibre optic Camera for looking around corners, etc... But I think it smarter to use the sewers as an Escape than a Car as IR Tracking won't work and it took the cops 2 days in Australia to think about searching the sewers for signs of the gunman, show how smart cops really are =)


DaRkDwArF
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posted May 07, 2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
Forgot to add Fence Cutters and a Multimeter, you can check the fence and doors for electricity, meaning if it's got juice cranking through it, find another way in


Bitter
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posted May 07, 2000 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bitter   Click Here to Email Bitter     
Night time is best. Few people around and its harder for them to see you.
Watch lots of movies too for ideas; One gang of people ransomed this councillor or something a few years ago and told him to put £10000 in a bin,which the police were watching. They got the money out by going underground in a sewer and cutting the bottom off the bin, just like in 'Speed'. No BS !

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BaDSeeD
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posted May 07, 2000 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BaDSeeD   Click Here to Email BaDSeeD     
lol

I can tell you guys dont live in a big city.

If there was someone i wanted to kill. Just walk up to him, put the gun in his face and pull the trigger. Then walk away. This happens so often around here, that no one will really pay attention to the gun shot, they'll pass it off as a car back firing, firecrackers, trains connecting, etc etc. If anyone see's you, they'll no doubt be too scared to say anything or take a stand against you. So long as they dont feel they are in any danger. Simply walk away, dont take long looks at people, thats when they get scared. If they dont recognize you, or think they are in danger, they wont report it.

If silence is an issue, follow the guy, everyone at one point or another winds up in a parking garage (especially in cities) or some other fairly deserted place. Now use the knife, plain and simple. I'm not going to get into specific targets... they should be pretty obvious, and the more advanced targets, those will only lead the police into thinking you have professional training anyhow.

Any weapon you use must be disposed of properly. If they dont have the weapon, it makes it much harder to prosecute. Deep water, garbage dumps, forge temperature fires, burial, etc etc. These are all good places. Personally... niagara falls is close to me, and they often dont even find a whole body or boat when it goes over the falls, no doubt a knife or gun would be a bit harder to find.

As for the body... this is the biggest source for clues. Fire is the easiest way to get rid of it for good. Ashes dont exactly give clues.

Also... you'll need an alaby (sp) for when the man does come knocking. And he will... if you had a reason to kill someone... someone else probably knows about it. They will find you, and you better be able to prove you were somewhere else when it happened.

BaDSeeD

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posted May 07, 2000 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
the only problem with a regular fire (non forge temps) is that it sometimes gives you a false sense of security. the fire can leave behind bone fragments to id the target but of course that will not point to you. buring is a good idea cause it gets rid of fibers and blood. but just don't think that they cannot id the body. dental or bone pieces are used all the time. just don't think you are scott free cause you burned the body. (burn the body THEN throw the ashes in the river...that is fool proof)

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AfterRain
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posted May 07, 2000 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
BaDSeeD,
I used to live in Phila,Pa...Now thats like what one of the 5 largest city's in the US. And the Mafia** never really walked up to people and shot them in the face.... It was always some where deserted or a place "they" owned....

and I ment with this question was, Not how to kill... But stuff you as a Assassination would carry close by you gun wise..And I dont mind for **tips** you give ways to kill... I just want to know what most of you's would carry,Drive around.....

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Ho ju
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posted May 07, 2000 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
i would not drive a vehical if i lived in a big city. i would use a bike or go on foot. using the sewers like Bitter said is a good idea but you could die down there if it is not properly ventilated, but i doubt you would have that problem in a city like NYC. the subway systems would also be a good escape root. using abandoned tracks is good. scout out many possible escape routes (many is the key word) before you make the hit.

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VeHeMT
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posted May 08, 2000 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeHeMT   Click Here to Email VeHeMT     
Afterain, the list of items you came up with make it look like your trying to single handedly win a war!


AfterRain
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posted May 08, 2000 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
No..... It's just sh*t that always has it's time for use.... And how are you goin' to "hit" a target if you dont know where "he/she" is ? And I think that some of you will agree with me that all hits that are done in there home are not the best to do the hit in ! And like what stuff are you talkin' about ? The guns are a must (Well maybe not the shotgun) ... The only thing I can think of is the ham radio and that goes with the police scanner, If anyone knows anything about HAM radios you know you can program the frq. in to the HAm radio, SO you could give the cops false info. about your self..

Anyways , I was in class thinkin' about some thing called "The Ice-Bullet" Has anyone every heard of this ? And if so, could you please give me/TheForum more info about ? And If you have a url please post... Thanks !

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VeHeMT
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posted May 08, 2000 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeHeMT   Click Here to Email VeHeMT     
Well, 6 hand guns? A shotgun and a rifle? Your just killing a person, not trying to fight off 10 people! Besides every scenario would be different so you cant just make up some universal inventory. Plus extra ammo for each weapon! my god, you'll be moving so slowly and making so much noise!


AfterRain
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posted May 08, 2000 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
O.K


I meant sh*t that you could use in all scenario's .... The Rifle is a sniper rifle... The 2 s are cheap and there good ... the 2 45's they got power behind them ! The shotgun is good for all scenario's that are with-in a range !


God damn....... I think bein' on this forum people would think.... I mean to carry all that sh*t would be like to just stand up in front of a cop with all the guns and a sign on your far-head sayin' just shot me , dead in the head !


O.k, Well, If you did not understand , Let me clear shit up ! I meant shit I would own.... I dont mean to get all bitchy....


And all about the 10 man killin' when hit's go down , there are other peeps there with guns ! So thats where the 2 9's and the 2 45's come in to play !


crossme18
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posted May 08, 2000 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crossme18   Click Here to Email crossme18     
I know alot about commiting crimes. None this serious but I figure I will add my 2 cents. If you do something, make sure you don't tell anyone offline or online. Like killing someone or blowing up a big building. I know its hard not to brag but still. I am not going to disclose what crime I commited particulary but I tell ya I commited 4 felonies. I was 14 got 2 years boot camp/detention and 6 years probation. Also don't get anyone to help, if you do kill them afterwards. I got betrayed by my crime partners.

When they see they can get a year or two less they kinda accept it. Also if you going to kill someone I suggest using the poison from a BlowFish. Makes it look like a heartattack. Also works within 1 min! All ya have to do is get a blowfish and get instructions for extracting it. I believe ya just get its blood or something. I dunno. Also cyanide or ritin or risin whatever they pronoune it could be used. Its like extremely poisonious. Or if your in a big city just shoot the dude and ride away on a bike or foot.

Also make sure your pockets are empty when doing a crime. Make sure you have hardly any clothing on. Make sure its completely clean. Its best to get a hair cut first and shave arms and face. Then you have no hair left on the scene incase of a homicide investigation. Take it from someone who has a assassin as a cousin. Make sure you collect the money from the person you did it for too!!!

Randy

DaRkDwArF
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posted May 09, 2000 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
this forum is not for dreaming, don't talk about what you WANT to have, talk about what you CAN get, and list that, it's much more helpfull to list down what you can get, than military sniper rifles and turbo charged rally cars.


AfterRain
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posted May 09, 2000 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
I can get all the things I've listed ! And the .308 is not just a military sniper rifle ! The only thing that I might have trouble with is the truck,And that would be where to find one to buy ! .. Thats it !


Randy,
I think we know not to say " I killed someone" !


crossme18
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posted May 09, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crossme18   Click Here to Email crossme18     
AfterRain there is nothing wrong with pointing a finger. Hehe. "He killed him, it wasn't me, I was simply holding the fuse while he lighted it." hehe.

Randy

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posted May 09, 2000 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for killer_elite   Click Here to Email killer_elite     
Read the TWEP OPS exercise on page 235 of KWJ. This is a real world assassination training method used at the farm.

On using weapons: Like a surgeon, you only want the instruments in your hands for the operation only--the minimum amount of time required. Every operation must be planned this way. Example: You don't carry your gun with you to the job, you plant it weeks in advance of the job. Long before secuity is tight. You walk to the sight clean with nothing to declare.

A professional assassin or terrorist sees the big picture and plans his operation around it. He knows what each person in the security detail does, when, where, how and why. Nothing is left to guesswork.

Reconnaissance is a must, along with a knowledge of disguises--nothing elaborate. One of the best disguises you can wear can be found in a tanning salon. Men have an added bonus of being able to grow facial hair in hundreds of styles. I recommend weaves over wigs when it comes to changing hair styles. Fake tattoos, what can I say, I'd use them if need be. Right along with fake body piercing. This can be accomlished with spirit gum, which you should have lots of.

The best assassin's study San-Tzu's ART OF WAR religiously. Along with KWJ, these are your bibles. Constantly strive to think creatively and develope methods to circumvent their security measures, and develope new methods of assassination. Example: Instead of taking down the VIP's jet with a bomb, a special time delayed laser could be used to burn a hole in the fuel tank and ignite the fuel. This common device could be bought (best if stolen) right over the counter with no ID and would burn a hole so small as to escape detection accept under intense magnification. An engineer could even rig one in a cube so it fires in all directions for a 'can't miss' device. Placed in the baggage compartment on a timer its the perfect bomb. The stooges at the airport don't know a laptop from a lamp shade when it comes to identifying electronic components.

Read books on creativity and constantly think of the big picture.

killer_elite
M.L.


crossme18
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posted May 10, 2000 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crossme18   Click Here to Email crossme18     
killer_elite ya sound real professional. Sure ya didn't assissinate a president or something. hehe Just kidding. I'll be sure to plant my tools if I ever decide to kill someone. You might want to go get a job in the military maybe you could give them more adequate training they need. hehe.

Randy

BrassMonkey
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posted May 10, 2000 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrassMonkey   Click Here to Email BrassMonkey     
where could you buy a laser that could burn a hole in a jets fuel tank "over the counter"?


crossme18
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posted May 10, 2000 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crossme18   Click Here to Email crossme18     
BrassMonkey hate to say it but I saw one go on Ebay yes ebay for like $300. Hehe. Shoulda asked sooner, maybe you could of gotten a bid on it. The user who purchased it said he was going to point it in the sky and screw up a plane. It wasn't a little pointer was rather quite big.

Randy

killer_elite
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posted May 10, 2000 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for killer_elite   Click Here to Email killer_elite     
Military, now why didn't I think of that? I'll give you 3 guesses where I learned all this arcane, deep-fringe, monkey busines.

Hope the guy who asked where to buy a laser used the anonymizer or lives in Bumfuck Egypt. Asking where to buy parts for a bomb constitutes probable cause that he's really trying to put a working device together. Something like that will put you on the priority list for an dead serious investigation.

Uh oh, you've awakened the sleeping giants.


killer_elite
M.L.
(fictional writer at large)



Mmanwitgun
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posted May 10, 2000 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mmanwitgun   Click Here to Email Mmanwitgun     
Well going back to the first question before it trailed off the things I would carry would be

1 silenced .22 auto pistol(Silent and a clean kill)
1 Glock 17(Backup pistol, just incase)
1 12 gauge shotgun for people who might be at the scene like the victims lackeys or cops(Or a folding stock AK-47 depending on what Im going against)
2 knives
A 2 spare mags for each gun
No car, sewers are the best and if not a bike cause its silent and easy to hide.
Misc equipment like wire cutters, mirrors for corridors, grappling hook, rope, a first aid kit and a police scanner.
~Dave



AfterRain
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posted May 11, 2000 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
Thank you Mmanwitgun! This topic got way lost ! Thank you !

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AfterRain
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posted May 11, 2000 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
308 Sniper Rifle -- Well This is always handy
4 9mm Hand-guns -- Also good to have more then 2 ..And two would be silenced
2 45 hand-guns -- power-full , one would be silenced
1 12gag Shot-gun -- very good and you can get all type of ammo for it !
Equpment *
Extra Rounds for all guns -- Well duh
FlashLight --- duh
Phone tappin' tools -- to find where peep be
Fence Cutter's -- uhm... think
Police Scanner -- I dont know
Ham radio -- to tap police radio and give false info
Cell Phone --- this is a if-y
FlashBangs -- to stung peeps
Smoke-bombs - to get away
Set(12) Throwin' Knive's -- always good to have

And the whole car thing... I was thinkin' you guys where right... A car would be a pain in the ass ...

anyone know anything bout Ice Bullets ?

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