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DaRkDwArF
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posted May 11, 2000 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
Dude, scrap the throwing knives, their bad news =( for onew never throw a weapon of any sort at your enemy, weather it be kool, or what, they can just as easily and maybe even more accuratley throw it back at you, and secondly, you might want to add a multimetre, those things are great for seeing if an electrical current is flowing through fences, doors, sires, etc...


AfterRain
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posted May 13, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
DaRkDwArF, That is true...... But there good casue they dont make any sound ! And , I would not throw them in a fight unless I had 99.9% chance to hit them !

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DaRkDwArF
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posted May 13, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
you know that you only have a 50% chance of the knife actually going into the person and only a 5% chance of killing a person with the first knife =( (not including a head shot) but I've heard people can die of shock just by being hit by one knife without their knowing, pretty freaky huh, but anyway, I wouldn't trust the knives to do the job if I were you


AfterRain
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posted May 13, 2000 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
That is true.... But thorwin' Knifes are good for cuttin' necks ! Like walkin' up behind them !


Ho ju
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posted May 14, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
well you would not usea throwing knife for cutting a throat. you would use a sharp double edged knife and use the method that killer elite described a while ago. what you do is stab into there neck (stab just befor the spine, or just behind the wind pipe) and proceed to saw your way out of the neck (saw towards the wind pipe and out the fron of the neck) killer elite said this is the method tought to CIA agents at "the farm"

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DaRkDwArF
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posted May 14, 2000 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
Yes, Hoju is right, you want a dagger, with a serration somewhere along it for cutting throats


glock
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posted May 14, 2000 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glock     
i prefer a regular blade, double edge dagger, such as the gerber mark II

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Ho ju
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posted May 14, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
i like the ww1 trench knifes with the skull crusher pommel (brass knuckles built into the pommel to punch with) that and a serrated knife like you mentioned would be the two knifes i would carry. one for plain old brute force the other for quite assassination

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AfterRain
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posted May 16, 2000 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
All killers have there " best " way to kill peeps, So what would your way's be ?


Legion
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posted May 16, 2000 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Legion   Click Here to Email Legion     
Well I'm by no means a scout/sniper, but I guess I'll post my 2 cents anyways.

first off, to the guy that suggested the .22 for close-range hits, I would recommend against that. If you are being forced to manufacture your own suppressor or are strapped for cash, then it'll work, but it's still not preferrable. If I had a choice of a suppressed pistol, I would choose the SIG P226 in .357SIG or .45ACP. These rounds have enough punch to put _any_ mark down, and the advent of better silencers each year ensure that the weapon will be quiet. When dealing with assassinations (and firearms combat in general), the first rule of thumb is "BIGGER IS BETTER".

Don't carry much extra ammunition. 1 or 2 magazines is plenty. The more ammunition you have, the slower you will move, and the more noise you will make. And when you pack that much ammo, you're preparing for a gunfight - when conducting a hit, it is not preferrable to let it degrade into a gunfight. In fact, that's the one thing you should try to avoid. You don't need alot of ammunition anyways, because you'll probably be ditching the weapon soon afterwards anyways.

12 gauge shotguns are messy, loud, and cumbersome. They are not desirable for a clean hit. (Not to mention the fact that they need to be used in extremely close quarters, and are very low capacity.)

I agree with killer, plant the weapons beforehand if at all possible. While this isn't always possible (for obvious reasons), it is definitely preferable when done correctly. Anyone who's studied military caching will know.

While the infinite variables of such a situation would not allow for a "set" inventory, if I had to choose my preferred weapons for such an activity, they would be:

Sniping:
Remington 700 (civilian M40A1, basically)
-or-
Robar S90-SD (silenced 7.62mm)

close-range low intensity:
suppressed SIG P226 or M1911A1 (try to stay away from 9mm, it tends to move too quickly to effectively drop a target.)

close/medium range mid-high intensity:
H&K MP5SD
-or-
M4A1-SD (silenced AR-15 with automatic capabilities and collapsing stock)

My love of military firearms should be quite obvious. (You'd be surprised how easy these are to acquire...)

As for knives, scrap the big bowie knives and such. They're cumbersome and tend to be quite noticable. Choose a good Kershaw or Schrade lockback folder with a thumb grip for fast opening.

Oh, and killer.. Lemme guess - marine scout/sniper, right? ;-)

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[This message has been edited by Legion (edited May 16, 2000).]

BoB-
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posted May 16, 2000 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
well to be honest I would take the following

1 black powder rifle
1 projectile of choice probably standard musket shot
1/2lb HMTD or AP or ANNM plastique with det.
2 large Coleman propane camping fuel bottles
2 Bernz-Omatic blow torches with nozzle removed
1 sprinkler timing device run off batteries

then I'd just use the last 4 items to blow the heck out of an abandoned warehouse or similar then it that comotion take out the target

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BoB-
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posted May 16, 2000 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoB-     
umm... would I be liable if this guy used my suggestion?

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DaRkDwArF
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posted May 16, 2000 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
A MUSKET!!! HAHAHA!!!
You'd be lucky to piss that guy off with a blackpowder rifle, plus their too loud, go for something enclosed more


Legion
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posted May 16, 2000 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Legion   Click Here to Email Legion     
Heh.. Dwarf, remember how many people were killed in the 200 years before smokeless powder came into use. YOu know what they were killed with? You got it - muskets. While a black powder rifle (which is not a musket, a musket is smoothbore) is not as effective as say a Barret light 50, it'll certainly blow a guy's head off just as good as any AK-47. Only problem is, you only have one shot and they tend to produce a lot of smoke and flash signature. (However, if you were to load it with Ammonpulver, smoke and flash would not be a problem.)

I actually have a few black powder pistols, they're quite effective, and just plain fun to shoot, too.

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AfterRain
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posted May 16, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
THANK YOU GUYS !
You guys stayed on topic !

Legion, Would you use a MP-5 ? Anyways ! I would be more of a sniper type then anything !


BrassMonkey
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posted May 16, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrassMonkey   Click Here to Email BrassMonkey     
I think that the best thing to use would be a blowgun w/ poison. Silent, effective, fast, plus you would have a suppressed SIG P226 with laser sight, and MP5 to back it up.

[This message has been edited by BrassMonkey (edited May 16, 2000).]

AfterRain
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posted May 17, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
Sounds good BrassMonkey


DaRkDwArF
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posted May 18, 2000 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaRkDwArF   Click Here to Email DaRkDwArF     
hmmm I'm more a close ragne, mid range fighter, I think I'd use a scoped crossbow w/poision hunting tips for sniping, and a suppressed HK USP .45 for close range


AfterRain
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posted May 18, 2000 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AfterRain     
HEHEHE, CrossBows are the SSSSSSShit......I forgot all bout them !

I'm more of the long-range or hand to hand combat type so.... for the long-range I would not to kill more peeps then had too.....

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