posted April 10, 2000 09:58 PM            

The point to a non-metallic weapon isn't to sneak it through an x-ray machine (which would see it anyways), but to be able to walk through the metal detectors armed.

And while on the subject of x-rays, why not send a mail bomb with a radiation detector as a fuse? When it goes through an x-ray machine at the post office or court building, BOOM!, no more x-ray machine or x-ray machine operator.

If these type of bombs became popular than the job of x-ray operator is going to become very unpopular.

And the cost of a bomb with a $40 radiation detector fuse compared to a $100,000 x-ray machine is very favorable to the bomber. This new hazard would require an entirely different technology start being used to counter the threat of a radiometric fuse. Which means big dollars coming out of the budget that could otherwise be used for something big brother wants.

posted April 11, 2000 05:46 AM            

Maybe that is exactly what 'big brother' wants.
Invisible and Silent methods are Golden, I'll agree. I have to go back and read this thread.

posted April 11, 2000 06:15 AM            

As I recall ceramics are detectable because they have metallic oxides in thm? I have had insomnia for 10 days so I can't remember.

I like the idea, maybe smuggle it in with different components.

posted April 11, 2000 10:20 AM            

So when someone says something bad about your country you defend it to no end, but when revealing personal ideas you admit to another point of view. Just like when you complained about things like gun control, and then contradict yourself by saying your country is the best blah, blah, freedom, blah, blah.

The inopop URL did not work for me.

posted April 11, 2000 08:07 PM            

"nbk2000: counter the threat of a radiometric fuse. Which means big dollars coming out of the budget that could otherwise be used for something big brother wants.<

Maybe that is exactly what 'big brother' wants."

What does that mean? That they'll increase taxes or such to buy new equipment? That's probably what they would do, but that also makes them even less popular with the public.

As long as the threat is limited to government and no "innocent civilians" are threatened, then the public will resent the increased taxes being imposed on them to keep government officials safe.

But if a bomber were to send an x-ray bomb through an airport scanner, killing "innocent civilians" , then the public would support any amount of taxes to be "safe". Especially "for the children".

The UNABOMBER is a good example. For many years his only targets were executives and academics. The public didn't feel threatened. But then he said he'd blow up an airplane. That caused major havoc at airports and caused the USPS to stop accepting packages over 1 pound in mail boxes (even after he got caught).

Once he did that, the general public felt threatened and this gave the government reason to post a million dollar reward. That lead to his capture. No matter what teds brother says, he wanted the money.

Obviously the UNABOMBER had power to cause fear. This is because of his long record of evading arrest. He was basically unstopable.

Another bomber using x-ray fuses, specifically targeting places that he knows use x-ray machines to scan the mail, would have an easy time terrorizing x-ray operators.

They would likely refuse to operate the machines until a solution to the threat was found. In the meantime people would either have to open their mail and risk getting blown up or not open their mail at all.

And people could more easily smuggle in weapons into court houses, jails, etc. since the operators would have to hand search packages, never knowing where the next x-ray bomb may come from.

posted May 09, 2000 01:19 AM            

I wanted to mention this documentary that I saw on "The Learning Channel, or "The History Channel".

It was about KGB, and American spys. They mention this one case from the 70's (i beleive) where a KGB spy was sent to assasinate someone in the american government (dont remember who).

The KGB spy used an umbrella with a spring piston propulsion device built in. He walked past his victom on a sidewalk, he pointed the tip of the closed umbrella at the victims leg and fired. The victim heard nothing, and only felt a slight "bee-sting".

During the autopsy they found in his leg 2 very tiny spheres (approx. half the size of a "BB" or smaller). When looked at under a microscope they had found that the spheres had microscopic holes drilled into them. When analized it was found that the spheres contained ricin which slowly released into the victims blood from the spheres.

The KGB assasin was caught somehow. And they retreived the umbrella which they showed in the documentary.

posted May 09, 2000 04:45 AM            

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"The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."

posted May 09, 2000 09:46 PM            

So I advise poison from a blowfish. Its not hard to obtain. Just buy a blowfish from some Japanesse place or you can go to a big city near you and buy it. Or you can buy the poison online somewhere. I have seen it around a lot of places. I can dig up some if you want me to. Also when you get the blowfish you extract it from it. I don't know if its from its blood or some gland. But theres alot of information about it online. Email me if you would like me to help in locating places.

posted May 11, 2000 03:04 AM            

Castor bean seeds, 50+ for $1 & SASE, local grown: 407/891-3010, R R Hargrave, 5798 Leon Tyson Rd, St Cloud 34771 (Osceola)

And instructions for making military grade ricin is on my website archive.

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"The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them."

posted May 12, 2000 12:44 AM            

When someone is sprayed in the face with anything it's a reflex to inhale when startled like that.

Cyanide binds with an enzyeme in the brain that controls the breathing reflex. That paralyzes the breathing, and thus kills you.

I experimented with it many years ago and in one test I put an adult cockroach in a 1 liter flask and dropped in 1 drop of hydrocyanic acid. The roach was dead in 40 seconds from the fumes, having never touched the liquid directly.

So if it will kill a roach, which can survive damn near anything, just imagine getting sprayed n the face with it.