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DeathShadow
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posted January 12, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathShadow   Click Here to Email DeathShadow     
Hi,I'm attempting to make acetone peroxide , i mixed 250ml peroxide(3%),150ml acetone (100%), and 50ml sulfuric acid (93%)
when i added the sulfuric acid to the mixture of acetone/peroxide it bubbled and made a gurggling sound then the beaker got warm, is
that normal?


nbk2000
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posted January 12, 2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
Anytime you add concentrated sulfuric acid to water (peroxide solution) you're going to generate heat. You want to keep you solution below 10' C. The product is more stable then.

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DeathShadow
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posted January 12, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathShadow   Click Here to Email DeathShadow     
ok thanks.. it scared the shit out of me because i thought it was gonna blow up or something..lol


megalomania
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posted January 15, 2000 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
Holy shit, thats a LOT of acid of very high concentration there...

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DeathShadow
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posted January 15, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathShadow   Click Here to Email DeathShadow     
yeah.. i bought it at the hardware store (orchard supply hardware) under the name "liquid drain opener" in a clear bag, tall white bottle just if you were wondering..

the finished product was great too

[This message has been edited by DeathShadow (edited January 15, 2000).]

nbk2000
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posted January 15, 2000 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
In the future, add the acid a drop at a time with constant stirring to prevent the solution from overheating. And keep it between 5'C and 10'C for best results. Ice bath.

By the way, how much AP did you get from the reaction?

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Jolly Roger
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posted January 15, 2000 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jolly Roger   Click Here to Email Jolly Roger     
christ almighty! i made AP for the first time today - is it good or what! Beats the crap out of chlorate and sugar.....


DeathShadow
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posted January 15, 2000 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathShadow   Click Here to Email DeathShadow     
It didnt make that much.. because i only gave it a day to make, i bet if i would have left it longer it would have made more.. the stuff i got though is really powdery its like flour or powdered sugar



Dr-D
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posted January 16, 2000 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr-D     
I made some AP a while back, 3%h2o2, with benzene-enhanced-acetone "extra strength" it was called. It took several days and I got little snow flake crystals. There wasn't much because I only had about 1" of liquid. And when harvested, I lost all the crystals because they stuck to the filter


m3nth
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posted January 16, 2000 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m3nth   Click Here to Email m3nth     
using 3%h202, 100%acetone and 38%hcl in an 8:3:1 ratio you should be able to leave it in the fridge for three days and get almost exactly a quarter yield when the powder is not condensed. say you have a cup that is your unit of measurement. after the crystals are filtered, dumping them in the cup and shaking them (they are loose not packed down) gives you almost exactly a quarter of your measurement cup full of crystals. if you get a lot less then this you are doing something wrong--anyone get better results than this by any chance? if a fine layer of crystals stick to the filter dry it and scrape/beat them off with a pocket knife once it is completely dried.

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