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DeathShadow Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 12:09 AM i wanna make this stuff , i got all the chemicals exept hydrochloric acid, i looked for this stuff in the pool chlorine stuff but it had another chemical, not hydrochloric acid, anywhere else i could get it? specific brand names maybe?
m3nth Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 01:41 AM Muriatic acid is simply hydrochloric acid. Well, to be precise, what we commonly know as muriatic acid is really the water solution of hydrogen chloride (HCl). This means that hydrogen chloride, normally a gas, is put into solution in water through a chemical process. The name "muriatic" comes from the Latin "muriaticus", meaning "pickled in brine". Muriatic acid is one of the oldest chemical compounds known and is recorded and described in the oldest texts. It is found in the gastric juices of humans and was documented by the earliest surgeons. Really, "muriatic acid" is a much older term than the scientific name "hydrochloric acid". Muriatic acid has become, over hundreds of years, the accepted trade name for hydrochloric acid in the building trades. Were you to ask for hydrochloric acid at many suppliers, all you would likely get is a blank stare. That is because there is a misconception that "muriatic acid" is different than "hydrochloric acid". It's not. --- that came from some web page. goto ace or home depot, ask them for muriatic acid, it's used to clean excess mortar off of brickwork. it's sold in gallon jugs (usually white with red poison warnings) for about US$3. you really need to go back and read previous posts for safety and handling information. ~m3nth~ Education is expensive? Try ignorance! [This message has been edited by m3nth (edited January 11, 2000).]
MR COOL Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 02:05 AM Well guess what. You can use sulphuric acid instead of hydrochloric. I think it would rather be even better cause I made the stuff(AP) using H2so4 and it was awesome. ------------------
Feticidal Fantasy Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 11:22 AM Don't be such a prick, m3nth. Anyways, muriatic acid is made by a company called Kem -Tek. Don't get the stuff that is used to clean off bricks, it is comes in a much smaller bottle, and costs a lot more. The kind that is made by Kem Tek, is 32% which is good. Look for it in the pool section, I got mine from Home Base. If they don't have it, go to another store. It comes packaged in a box which contains two gallon jugs with red writing costing $3.50. ------------------ Feticidal Fantasy- http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/feticidal/ "Keep your gun as your constant companion."
m3nth Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 12:50 PM ff... maybe the stuff i saw was in the pool section and i didn't notice... wasn't really looking for anything else but gallon jugs 32% like you said were there about same price--just walked into ace and said where's the muriatic acid. the info on your page was really good too... thanks for posting that. mr cool... a note on using sulphuric acid... either one will work... HCl makes the trimer where H2SO4 makes the dimer. more info on that is in the makeshift arsenal. ~m3nth~ Education is expensive? Try ignorance! [This message has been edited by m3nth (edited January 11, 2000).]
Dr-D Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 02:37 PM the differnce between the trimer and the dimmer is not the kind of acid you use, but the temperature. This has been corrected lots of times. Get it right! Sulfuric acid tends to raise the temperature and is usualy in higher concentrations resulting in a more unstable product if no cooling is used in the reaction. Where as HCl usualy is low concentration and doesn't raise the temp that much so people who don't cool the reaction can get away with a more stable product.
Nitro unregistered	posted January 11, 2000 02:59 PM What is the best way to dry the AP.
DeathShadow Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 03:52 PM Thanks to everyone who responded to my question
m3nth Frequent Poster	posted January 11, 2000 06:33 PM well that makes sense. see how come people don't have complete information? i got that off the makeshift arsenal but then later notice it saying the info he got was taken from an unreliable source. guess so. i read through almost every single old post relating to AP though and it was not mentioned--thanks for the correction. good way to dry AP is just set it out and chop it up like heroin or somethin so it aint all clumped up. don't put it in sunlight (just a precaution) and using a fan for air circulation speeds things up a bit but isn't necessary. ~m3nth~ Education is expensive? Try ignorance!

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