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killer_elite Frequent Poster |
posted September 05, 1999 10:44 PM
 
I'm really surprised no one has ever done this. Its so simple its scary. Here are my twisted thoughts and something for you guys to contemplate. It relates to blowing a gas station off the map.
The terrorist obtains a roll of fuse from the local hobby shop, spy shop or via the mail. The terrorist ties a bunch of bolts to the end of the fuse. In the dead of night the terorist goes down to the local Quickie-Mart and locates the gasoline filling hole on the ground which is used to fill the big tanks underground. Its usually a steel manhole cover about a foot in diameter. They are seldom, if ever locked. The terrorist prys up this cover with a screwdriver and lowers the bolts on the end of the fuse ito the tank. The bolts simply act as weights. The terrorist then spools off the rest of the fuse as he runs away. The end of the fuse is lit and the terrorist jumps in his awaiting getaway car and flees the scene. When the fuse burns down to the gasoline storage tank an enormous explosion blows the gas station to the promise land.
Electrical time bomb principle. A flash bulb is dipped in glue then rolled in powdered match heads. This is wired into a complete circuit which incorporates a kitchen timer, battery, and insulated wire leads. The terrorist attaches this device to the underside of the circular steel plate on the ground with heavy carpet tape. When the bulb fires the gasoline vapors ignite and blow the place up. for informational purposes only.
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ezekiel Frequent Poster |
posted September 07, 1999 03:38 PM
probably a better way would be to drop a stick of dynamite down , thus breaking open the tanks and vaporising the gasoline - ie big boom. just fuse would still work , but less dramatic. ------------------ |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted September 07, 1999 04:08 PM
yes but we all do not have access to sticks of dynamite. well at least i don't. A fuse with a washer is easier to obtain and cheaper to boot. ------------------ |
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killer_elite Frequent Poster |
posted September 07, 1999 08:58 PM
You ain't gonna need no stick of dynamite. That would be overkill and a waste of a good explosives. A terrorist can blow a car off the map with this same method. Just drop the weighted end down a gas tank and light the fuse.
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Feticidal Fantasy Frequent Poster |
posted September 08, 1999 05:28 PM
killer elite- I was under the impression that gasoline will only burn when it is in contact with oxygen, so if you had a 55 gallon drum filled with gas and you ignited it, it wouldn't explode, the gas that was on the top would just burn, and keep burning until the gas ran out. So if the gas tank was full and you lit it, wouldn't the small portion of gas in the pipe to the gas tank, wouldnt just that small area ignite? I do understand if the tank was low on fuel and there was a lot of air space above the remaining gas, i could see that exploding. but would this work with a car that was totaly full? ------------------ |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted September 08, 1999 07:32 PM
yeah you have a good point F.F. What you said brought to mind what happened in kuwait in teh gulf war. only the spewing oil lit and nothing else. Granted the oil was SPEWING (under pressure) from the hole but it is the same concept. ------------------ |
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ezekiel Frequent Poster |
posted September 09, 1999 02:19 PM
Hence the idea about using a stick of dynamite. Although a big pipe bomb would do. ------------------ |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted September 09, 1999 04:17 PM
yeah now that i think of it an explosion would be a good idea. Thsi would rip open the tank so O2 would rush in and make everything light and go boom. (i know restating the obvious) ------------------ |
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Predator Frequent Poster |
posted September 09, 1999 06:23 PM
The dynamite would use up all the available oxygen before the gasoline got to it would it not? I read somewhere that explosions give out Hydrogen which catches light, this would probably take the place of any air that was in the air space above the fuel in the first place, but you are still missing a vital component of fire/explosions -Oxygen. ------------------ |
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dlwdaw Frequent Poster |
posted September 09, 1999 07:10 PM
I think he is right they use dynamite to put out oil fires. but gasoline is so volatile it just might take some oxygen. I dont know. and does anybody know how those damn oil fires start? oil is the hardest thing to get lit. I tried lighting some with a morning glory, that is a sparkler like thing. those things are very hot. it wouldnt light ------------------ |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted September 09, 1999 11:17 PM
now the oil you tried to light. Was it crude oil or refined stuff? Cause the stuff in kuwait that was lit is the crude shit. So that might...that does have diffrent properties. That might be the key. ------------------ |
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ezekiel Frequent Poster |
posted September 10, 1999 01:24 PM
The dynamite would oxidise the gasoline (in part) and the heat would cause the gas to form a vapour , and due to convection this would spread up and out while air rushes in. TNT would be even better , while a pipe of ammonium nitrate would just rock. |
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