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TERROR A New Voice |
posted November 29, 1999 09:19 AM
 
is it possible to detonate ap with the help of a wick of bp?i heard that it is heat senstive.and if not then what should i use except caps .is it possible to detonate it with kclo3 + red phousphorous mix. |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted November 29, 1999 03:41 PM
oh yeah AP will be set off by just about anything. a match, fuse, blasting cap (which is going overboard i think)...hell if you drop it far enough i am sure it would go off. ------------------ -The eagle may soar but the weasle does not get sucked into jet engines. -The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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fart unregistered |
posted November 29, 1999 05:36 PM
Unless you are a very skilled pyro experimenter, refrain from tinkering with KClO3/Red P mixtures. The encylopedia of explosives says hardly not a single experimenter has fooled with that "Armstrong" mixture without the scars to prove it. I have used it before, and if you do it exactly right it will not harm you, but it can "go" in unsuspected ways. For example I stored it wet in sealed poly bags. About 4 months after storage at room temp, bags began to "go" while soggy wet. They did not explode but did fill the storage shed with great and dense white smoke, and they scorched the metal shelf they rested upon. I got my armstrong tatto by grinding it wet with alcohol, because I did not have the recommended grade of freon to keep it wet with while manipulating it. All went well with several batches, then one "went", and the hand holding the pestle was scorched black. It did not explode, but flashed in a fierce fire, too fast for reflexes to get away from. The temp was several kilo degrees, and the burns were considerable, in the milliseconds it took me to snatch the hand away. Had it been dry and "gone" I would have considerable mortar and pestle parts still in my hide. It is far more sensitive than mercury fulminate, chlorate/sulfur, Ap, and nitro glycerine. For an example of how fierce it is, it has a liberation heat of almost 1500 calories per gram. Nitro glycerine has about 500, Don't know about AP but it is probably around 500. Since you ask what will set of AP, when those who work with it know the proper question is what will not set it off, I presume you might fool with chlorate-phosporus without realizing the consequences. Avoid it until you can answer your own such questions as the one you ask about, and a lot more difficult questions as well. There is an online Historical Chemistry Book posted out of australia that I recommend all novices read. Its easy reading, and although it was written a century ago, it will explain much to you. The URL is: It downloads quickly and in two parts, chapters to X and then the rest. |
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Dr-D Frequent Poster |
posted November 29, 1999 10:25 PM
Ah yes, I asked a while back the sensitivity of chlorate/sulfur compared to chlorate/phosphuros but didn't get an answer.. How sensitive is chlorate+sulfur compared to AP or chlorate+Phophurous? And would chlorate+magnesium sulfate react? |
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Ho ju Moderator |
posted November 29, 1999 11:26 PM
to test the sensitivity of that stuff just get some caps and fool around with those to see what it takes to set them off. you will notice that one little cap lets off tons of heat and alot of smoke. it is pretty cool. ------------------ -The eagle may soar but the weasle does not get sucked into jet engines. -The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
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TERROR A New Voice |
posted November 30, 1999 03:00 AM
i have experimented with kclo3+s powder.But it is not too shock senstive.here in pakistan this mix. is used in a device consists of a pipe and a rod in it .one has to put powder in this device and after inserting the rod in one has to push the rod inside it with a great force but it realy gives a loud report.this device is called "rakla" in punjabi (language).let me tell u another shock senstive exp. it is a mix of kclo3 and realger (arsenic tetra or tri sulphide)it is realy very shock senstive red coloured powder.i have made hundereds of thowing bombs with this mix by mixing it with some stones or pebbles and raping it in a paper.then i make it hard enough using a thead .now it is ready to throw and it can be detonated with the help of a airgun shoting a pellet on it.it is realy cool and gives a very loud report. be careful the stuff is realy dangerous and i got three injuries as the bomb dropped when i was rapping it with a thread |
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fart unregistered |
posted November 30, 1999 09:50 AM
A warning about the australian chemistry book cited above, it contains many mathematical errors in its sections on chemical calculations. It would be a good test book for a student who already knows how to balance equations, to correct all the errors it has. However it does have much information about elementary chemistry and is the only book I found on the web that is online for those not able to get a book elsewhere. A standard, used college level first course chemistry text of recent publication would be more accurate, and could probably be bought at a college used book store. |
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