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| Author | Topic: HMTD vs AP |
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darcey Frequent Poster |
which one is the more powerful out of the two? A friend and i made up a batch of HMTD todau and let it off with great sucess. I found that the HMTD was alot easer to make then the AP (it only took 30 mins where the AP takes 48 hours). I also thought that the HMTD was alot more powerful. Anyone else a great fan of HMTD? I have seen the light and will be making HMTD well into the new millenium. |
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wave Frequent Poster |
yeah i like hmtd but if you follow the instuctions on mega site . how HMTD are you suppose to have at the end if you use 3% of proxide |
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darcey Frequent Poster |
How to make HMTD. * This explosive is VERY VERY VERY shock, friction and heat sensitive* in other terms if you hit it, jump on it, grind or ignite it, it will explode Ingreadents: Hexamine tablets or hexie tabs- you can find these at camping or disposial stores, they come in a little box and smell like fish. 30% Hydrochloric acid- you can get this stuff from hardware stores, just ask All you do is disolve one part, by volume, of hexamine in two parts of hydrogen proxide. Mix this well until no hexamine is undisloved. If you are mixing large amounts i recomend that you place this> in the fridge for about 15 mins or so just to let it all cool down before adding the acid. If you are using small amounts (tablespoons) i wouldn't worry about cooling it down. Next mix in one part hydrochloric acid and place into the fridge for 30 mins. Take out of the fridge and you should see little white crystals in the liquid. Filter these crystals out and WASH THOROUGHLY. FAILURE TO DO THIS COULD RESULT IN AN EXPLOSION. *note*: HMTD gets very pissed off if you contaminate it with anything. That is why you have to wash it alot. You should never, i will say that again NEVER stir the mixture with ANYTHING when the acid has been added. When i said before to mix the acid into the hexie and proxide only swish it round in the jar or mixing contianer. Always wash all of your equipement in hot water but never with soap or dishwashing liquids, this could lead to an explosion. |
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poison Frequent Poster |
Acetone Peroxides det velocity is - 5300 m/s And HMTD The info was off megas page. -Poison |
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Blaze Frequent Poster |
It all depends on density.... as with most explosives. an example is PETN, in det cord dets at 7km/s but when heavily compressed into a detonator reaches near 9km/s.. the peroxides would be the same |
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VeHeMT Frequent Poster |
Yup, on mega's site it also says that the AP in loose form was 1.18 g/cc and that the HMTD in loose form was 0.88 g/cc. HMTD pressed will detonated well over 5000m/s. |
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Ho ju Moderator |
Pressing HMTD? ha! that is suicidal. but i know what you were getting at VeHeMT. I would assume HMTD is more powerful just by the first hand accounts of the people on the forum. Most people say they have more luck with HMTD when setting off things like ANFO and others of the like. |
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wave Frequent Poster |
is two differnt ways of making HMTD because i heard two differnts ways so far one from darcy -he talk about using Hydrochloric acid |
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poison Frequent Poster |
HMTD is louder but AP has more shattering power and it detonates anfo and stuff easyer the HMTD. I prefer explosives that have more shattering power opposed to loudness. -Poison |
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dlwdaw Frequent Poster |
this was taken from kitchen improvised detontaors available at. nbk's site. by the way, NBK, can I add your bookz to my bookz site? I will give credit. thanks """""""
Process #1 Obtain 6% hair bleaching peroxide which is available from any CAUTION: HMTD is sensitive to shock, impact, friction, heat and open flame. These white crystals are washed with 45 ml of distilled water. Tap HYDROGEN PEROXIDE. "Superoxol" (30% d. 1.11 G/cc)- 185 G These are used in the procedure given above. Simply "plug in" the amount PROCESS #2 This second process is one of very easy acquisition of the main Five hundred grams of 3% hydrogen peroxide are placed in a quart jar CAUTION: This white product is dangerous and sensitive to FRICTION, SHOCK, This is filtered out and washed with one washing of 50 ml distilled ------------------ "... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down" -- Ragnar Benson |
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darcey Frequent Poster |
i find it alot easer to make with HCL acid. I have tryed to make it wil citric acid and had no luck. Think i will stick to the HCL way, its alot easer. |
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nbk2000 Moderator |
Dlwdaw, if you want to you can copy the bookz to your site. Just change the style and coloring so it won't be confused with my sites styling. Or you can link to it as long as it's obvious it's on my site and not yours. ------------------ |
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dlwdaw Frequent Poster |
thanks, did you type it up? I just wanted to make sure before I just took them. thanks ------------------ "... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down" -- Ragnar Benson |
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fart unregistered |
Does anyone know if the heat bars Trioxane are good for making anything other than heat? The formula is C3 H6 O3 Its name is Formaldahyde Trimer and its available as military surplus |
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Dr-D Frequent Poster |
not that I know of. I'm pretty sure trioxane can't be used for anything usefull besides burning it... |
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