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*Igenx*
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posted November 19, 1999 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Igenx*   Click Here to Email *Igenx*     
THEORETICALLY!!!
Can a 2 in cube of composition C-1 in a safe cracker charge (45 degree cone bonded to the surface using magnets or contact cement) effectively be used to puncture a large tank of liquid propane, the kind that is about 20 feet long? Would a larger charge be nessary to puncture the steel on one of these tanks? I haven't found much info on this, only a similar, albeit larger, shaped charge made from C-4 with a copper sheet was able to blow a hole thru a 2 in piece of stainless steel.
Would a secondary charge be nessary to actually detonate the atomized propane, and if so how long should the interval between the explosiions be?


Ho ju
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posted November 20, 1999 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
on the same subject, would a pipe bomb made out of AP (say the pipe was 6 inch long and 1 1/2 inches wide) be enough to a) break open a big propane tank and b) be enough to break it open AND ingnite the particles?

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darcey
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posted November 20, 1999 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darcey     
it would all depend on how big the propane tank was. I tryed using a HMTD charge to rupture a LPG tank and it didn't work. I in the end used a chlorate/al powder explosive charge with a Bulleyes filled cardboard tube detonated with a HMTD cap stuffed in it. This worked very well, rupturing the tank and also igniting it.


Feticidal Fantasy
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posted November 21, 1999 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feticidal Fantasy   Click Here to Email Feticidal Fantasy     
I asked this question before on the bravenet forum. The answear I got was.. Use a linear shaped charge the length of the tank filled with RDX. and pour gasoline on the outside of the tank to ignite the flames. They said if you use a cone shaped charge since the hole is tiny, the gas rushing out will get chilled and will not be easily ignited. So a linear charge would spilt the tank in half.

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*Igenx*
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posted November 21, 1999 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Igenx*   Click Here to Email *Igenx*     
Cool. Thanks. Any idea what diamater the linear charge would have to be?
The time constrain is the problem with covering the tank in gas. It would evaporate before it would be detonated. A dual stage timer seems to be the only way to successfully detonate a propane tank.


darcey
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posted November 22, 1999 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darcey     
what is a linear charge? just a pipe filled with explosive? sorry if this question sounds silly but i have heard the term quite alot but never know what it was.


Feticidal Fantasy
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posted November 23, 1999 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Feticidal Fantasy   Click Here to Email Feticidal Fantasy     
I saw a show on TV where they were blasting steel beams and their linear charges were about 4" wide and 3" high. A linear shaped charge is a pipe that is shaped like a U. I think I may have a file about this on my website.

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