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Blaze Frequent Poster	posted October 31, 1999 09:52 PM since your recent discussions on oxygen, heres an simple to do idea i came up with.. If you run an electric current through water you end up with an explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen, if trapped in a bottle it would have to make a loud boom.. would H+O2 under such circumstances be stable? i actually tried it but i stuck the nails too close together resulting in a spark setting the H around the nail up, sending the nail blasting across the room... looked cool but...
Ho ju Moderator	posted October 31, 1999 10:38 PM if that setup works it would be cool. but could water be split up into H + 02 or H2 + 0 ( i am not sure wich one is correct) i thought there had to be at least 2 atoms of Hydrogen or oxygen in the molecule...you know HOBrFINCl ------------------ Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!
Blaze Frequent Poster	posted November 01, 1999 04:23 AM actually i clean forgot about the iron oxide forming around the terminals.. that screwed up my way of thinking, does oxygen actually form? iron oxide is Fe3O2 isnt it?
Ho ju Moderator	posted November 01, 1999 06:00 AM i think iron (III) oxide (the stuff you use to make thermite) is fe2o3 not fe3o2
Blaze Frequent Poster	posted November 01, 1999 07:27 AM yeh...your right again. I better stop posting for a while .. let my brain start thinking right.
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted November 01, 1999 01:14 PM How powerful was and or what was your power suppply when you tried to electrolyse the water?
Blaze Frequent Poster	posted November 01, 1999 09:47 PM I used a car battery jump starter ... no idea as to the power of the thing. maybe 14-15 volt.
megalomania Administrator	posted November 02, 1999 01:46 PM Without getting into the technical details of electrolysis lets just say that your end product is dependant on the concentration of your electrolyte and the voltage going in. This means you can have many different things from the same ingrediants. Under most circumstances you will get oxygen gas, O₂, and hydrogen gas, H₂. Note that you get 2 moles of hydrogen (twice as much), I think thats what you guys were stuck on. You will want to use an acid as the electrolyte, only a small amount so the electrons can flow (pure water does not conduct electricity). If you care to delve into the wonderful world of electrolytic potentials, all would be revealed... ------------------ Visit Megalomania's Explosives and Stuff at http://surf.to/megalomania
Ho ju Moderator	posted November 02, 1999 03:45 PM where do you get the extra h atom from? you can not just pull it from your ass can you? ------------------ Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted November 02, 1999 10:30 PM 2 H2O -> 2 H2 + O2. Simple. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
Blaze Frequent Poster	posted November 04, 1999 09:11 PM so...umm.. oxygen is released?? but you wouldnt have 2:1 - H2:O2 because of the formation of iron oxide would you not.. as you may of picked.. ive never done chemistry
megalomania Administrator	posted November 05, 1999 03:15 AM I do believe my iron electrodes (1 foot long, 1/4 inch diameter) wear down in about 1 week of constant use. They are electrolyzed with 12 volt battery charger more or less for 24 hours and half are consumed. Thats a rough estimate, but it shows that the rate of oxidation of the iron is negligable. Oh the wonders of reaction rates You would be hard pressed to notice the loss of the very few oxygen atoms stuck on iron, and so it dosn't enter into the equation. You could use platinum, then there would only be worries about creditors oxidizing your wallet... ------------------ Visit Megalomania's Explosives and Stuff at http://surf.to/megalomania
Blaze Frequent Poster	posted November 06, 1999 03:51 AM so, now that my original post was nearly correct. Is it safe to mix H2 & O2 like that?
megalomania Administrator	posted November 06, 1999 09:19 PM As long as there is no spark around the gas, sure. ------------------ Visit Megalomania's Explosives and Stuff at http://surf.to/megalomania

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