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dlwdaw
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posted October 03, 1999 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dlwdaw   Click Here to Email dlwdaw     
Hey guys, will this method be safe or even work?
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/dlwdaw/primers/ap.htm

thanks.

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dlwdaw
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posted October 03, 1999 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dlwdaw   Click Here to Email dlwdaw     
I forgot to tell you. the links to the equipment section dont work I havent made the page yet.
sorry

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"... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down"

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nbk2000
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posted October 04, 1999 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk2000   Click Here to Email nbk2000     
If your not sure if it's safe or will even work, why would you post it on your site where anyone can see it? Post it here so we can see it. If you post it on your site, someone would assume that it works and is safe (unless you state to the contrary) and maybe try it. When they do it and it doesn't work, or worse yet get injured, they'll think (rightly) that your posting bunk info and you lose credibility.

Credibility and a good reputation is the only thing a person has to seperate them from the bullshit that's rampant on the internet. If you don't care about your rep then by all means post the process on your site.

I wouldn't, but then I'm not you. You have to decide for yourself how much you care about your rep.

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dlwdaw
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posted October 04, 1999 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dlwdaw   Click Here to Email dlwdaw     
I pretty sure it wouldnt blow up. I used the proportions from http://go.to/explosives
that is lowry's makeshift arsenal.
I used the same proportions except I put the icebath in too make sure to keep it safe.
I say if you have 30 or 35% H2O2 to dilute it to 6%, which is the same as makeshift arsenal.
and would somebody please tell me if this would blow up or not. there shouldnt be any problem with people blowing themselves up. I havent submited it to any search engines yet. you guys are the only ones that know about my page.

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"... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down"

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megalomania
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posted October 04, 1999 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
That lab procedure is just fine You might want to say use salt and ice instead of ammonium nitrate for the ice bath, the effect will be the same and you don't even need a stainless steel pan.

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Nick
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posted October 04, 1999 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     
this is a safe and good way to make it.

100 ml Muratic Acid {28%HCL}
300 ml Acetone
133 ml of 40 volum peroxide {hair bleach}

Mix, stir for 2 minutes, let stand in freezer for at least 48 hours a large amount of AP will have formed, filter and dry, reamber ice and salt and water are not needed Mixing AP is not explosive so dont worry!!


poison
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posted October 04, 1999 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poison   Click Here to Email poison     
Oh man are you off acetone peroxide is a very powerfull primary explosive. AP is a explosive a powerfull one and a very dangerous one at that. How can you possably say that AP is not a explosive because it does not need a blasting cap? Or in small amounts it just makes a fireball? Well your wrong.
-Poison


Nick
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posted October 04, 1999 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     
what i am saying is MIXING ap is not an explosive!!! you could drop, light, or do anything to the chemicals before they percipitate. and even after the mixture creates the A.P. it is still hard to set off untill they have been filterd and dryed, { however this only takes about an hour before all the acetone evaporats if crystals are spread correctly.} Yes A.P is very unstable and fucking with it will put your limbs in great danger, TREAT FINNAL CRYSTAL WITH GREAT RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


poison
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posted October 04, 1999 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poison   Click Here to Email poison     
What i forgot to put earlyer is cooling the chems when mixing is a good idea it gives better yields. You do not have to but the little extra trouble would be worth it.
-Poison


Nick
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posted October 05, 1999 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     
all that matters is that the chemicals be cooled during the reaction. even if the chemicals are cooled during mixing they still will not percipitate for a few hours.


megalomania
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posted October 05, 1999 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
The cooling is necessary to get tricycloacetoneperoxide... If you let it get warmer, you will be making larger amounts of the less stable dicycloacetoneperoxide. Image that, a less stable acetone peroxide than it already is. Eeek

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Ho ju
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posted October 14, 1999 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
can you store AP in any liqued (like water)to keep them safe and less sensitive before use

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