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sharky Frequent Poster	posted October 06, 1999 04:38 PM I attempted to make some picric acid from asprin. The final product is bright yellow crystals in the shape of little needles. Are these properties of picric acid? Also, what type of blasting cap does it need to detonate? thanks, sharky
dlwdaw Frequent Poster	posted October 06, 1999 05:08 PM I have never made it but I would think a normal cap. it is also used as a booster. you can press some of this into a cap body and them some HMTD or AP then it should detonate anfo. I think you should use a boosted cap to ensure detonation. ------------------ -dlwdaw "... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down" -- Ragnar Benson
nbk2000 Moderator	posted October 06, 1999 06:32 PM Congratulations. You made picric acid. Bright yellow needles are indeed picric. If you touched it did your skin turn yellow? You can use it to make plastic explosives by melting it with about 10% of it's weight paraffin wax with a little vaseline added to make it more moldable. Just melt the wax and stir in the picric. Wear rubber gloves while handling it because it is absorbed through the skin and is toxic. If you use it for a detonator, remember to use them ASAP if your using anything but aluminium for the shell. It forms very sensitive explosive salts with most metals. My site in the explosives section has a bookz on making and using picric. It called "kitchen Improvised Detonators". ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
sharky Frequent Poster	posted October 06, 1999 10:27 PM well, i tried not to touch it, but i think a little got on my thumb anyway because its yellow. Also, when i went to eat supper, i must have had some on my hand because every thing i touched with my hand tasted very bitter.... well, next time i'll wash my hands after i make picric. sharky
Ho ju Moderator	posted October 07, 1999 09:37 PM was the picric acid easy to make? or would you say it is a waste of time knowing you can produce something else with higher yields and better success. ------------------ Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!
nbk2000 Moderator	posted October 08, 1999 12:08 AM The most expensive thing in the process is the aspirin. If you five finger discount that, then the picric is quite cheap to make. And it's not that big a hassle for a real High Explosive. Much easier than trying to make nitro or RDX. Plus you don't need to make nitric acid beforehand either. A big plus. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
VeHeMT Frequent Poster	posted October 08, 1999 10:51 AM Even aspirin isnt in itself too expensive, for a few bucks you can get a hundred+ pills.
dlwdaw Frequent Poster	posted October 08, 1999 03:11 PM what is a five finger discount?? ------------------ -dlwdaw "... always look on the positive side of things, blow things up not down" -- Ragnar Benson
nbk2000 Moderator	posted October 09, 1999 04:17 AM 5 finger discount means shoplifting. Steal it. Aspirin is cheap, but when I made picric I got 1/2 ounce with 40 tablets. 2 1/2 ounces of picric per $3 bottle equals $20 per pound. That's not including the cost of the other chemicals. But the aspirin is the most expensive component. Picric is best used as a booster for detonators, not as a main explosive charge. ------------------ "The knowledge that they fear is a weapon to be used against them." www.50megs.com/nbk2000
sharky Frequent Poster	posted October 10, 1999 08:35 PM The only problem i had while making it was that when you dump the finished nitrated liquid into ice water to percipitate the picric acid, alot of the picric dissolves in the water. Is there anyway to get the dissolved picric out of the water? sharky
Ho ju Moderator	posted October 13, 1999 09:00 PM do you have to use a blasting cap to detonate picric? ------------------ Knowledge is power, power leads to corruption, corruption is a crime, crime doesn't pay. So if you know to much you will go broke!!

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