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sharky
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posted September 23, 1999 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharky   Click Here to Email sharky     
Has anyone found a cheap source for 70% nitric acid?
Pyrotek has it for 17.00 a qt. but you have to pay a 18.00 shipping fee.
Are there anyplaces with it cheaper than this?

thanks

megalomania
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posted September 24, 1999 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
I found a 35 gallon supply of appx. 60% nitric acid for $100 plus a refundable $250 drum deposit. A good deal in the long run. The acid is sold by a janitorial supply company. Strangely enough they told me they don't carry ammonia solutions, too dangerous ha

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*Igenx*
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posted September 24, 1999 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *Igenx*   Click Here to Email *Igenx*     
What's the address?


Ho ju
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posted September 26, 1999 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
is there any way you can turn 70% nitric acis into red fuming 100% nitric acid?

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dlwdaw
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posted September 26, 1999 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dlwdaw   Click Here to Email dlwdaw     
dont quote me, dont try this, and correct me if I'am wrong.

if NO2 evaporates before water. then couldnt you just use the method of making HNO3 to conc. it? you know heat condense... etc.??

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AlShoot
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posted September 27, 1999 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlShoot   Click Here to Email AlShoot     
I don't think that to let the water evaporate will concentrate the acid because the acid is in solution under ions form.A method is maybe to make the water react and so disappear from the solution


megalomania
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posted September 27, 1999 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
You have to distill the nitric acid with highly concentrated sulfuric acid, which traps the water, or add nitrogen dioxide to the dilute nitric acid, whics reacts with the water forming more nitric acid. In industry they use a system of sulfuric acid distillation equipment to concentrate nitric acid. The nitric acid is mixed in equal portions with sulfuric acid. The 99-100% sulfuric acid holds on to some of the water of the nitric acid (65-70% is how it is made to start). The nitric acid is somewhat more concentrated, 80-90% by now. The sulfuric acid is purged and distilled itself to remove the water it has accumlated. It is then remixed with the nitric acid of higher concentration and the process is repeated several times, each time the nitric acid approaches 100%. To get fuming nitric acid, you must bubble in excess nitrogen dioxide gas.

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Nick
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posted October 04, 1999 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick   Click Here to Email Nick     
Pyrotec?? how do i order from them?? they have no customer order form??


Ho ju
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posted October 05, 1999 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
send for a catalog. they have an order form in the catalog and they explain there VERY complicated shipping instructions.

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