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megalomania Administrator |
Reading that thread about the ice bullets has got me thinking: What other methods are there to fool police invesitagors? The subject of finding flaws and countering their tactics interests me a bit. I am sure this is the kind of stuff that they teach in the CIA, but they keep tight lips. For example, yesterday there was one of those "Police Video" programs on. It ws all about police chases as caught by their dash cams. I believe only 10% of those who run from the cops, in cars that is, actually get away. I know they must stop a persuit if you go into a heavily populated area at a high rate of speed. If you are in a big city, your toast, you can't outrun the helecoptors. And in many chases the cops use a tap technique to send your car out of control. They get right on your bumper then shift to one side. Using their front end they clip the very back of your car, this sends you into a spinout and they are fine. There must be a way of beating this, jamming on your brakes as soon as they make the move perhaps. Or taping their front end before they do it to you. Another option is to do this to other cars while escaping on the highway. Just a little tap to people as you zip by and the cops have to deal with innocents coming at them sideways. Then there is the subject of forensic evidence. What do you do after a crime? There are a lot of idiots who break the law, you find them in prison. Common sense should tell you to immediatly destroy every bit of clothing you had on during the crime. Especially after murder. Any fiber from your cloths or the victums wil be found. A skin fleck, a drop of blod, a shard of glass can all lead to you. Even after washing. Don't wanna ruin your best duds? Then buy new cloths before the crime. Make sure you stagger the purchases over time. You will be on camera in most stores. Buy generic, the more common something is, the less likely it can be traced to you! Get new shoes, pants, etc. Nothing that will stand out of course. Do you just through your crime cloths in the trash? If OJ did that, he would be in prison...burn them, bury them, stuff them hidden in a trash can so far away from you that it might as well not be yours. Holding up a bank? Better use a mask, glasses don't really cut it. They will get your face. Writing a note? Some would be robbers have written their demands on pay stubs, paroll papers, envelopes with their address on it... They are in prison. And do not ever bring any kind of identification with you on a crime. Clean out your pockets, who knows how many crimes were solved from the mere fate of a name on underwear. Dyepacks? Every bank has em, they are a tricky lot, turn for a second and its in your bag. Best to ask them right out to set it aside. Oh and don't forget, the last bill in a money drawer holds down an alarm switch, it is never removed (except by foolish robbers). I am sure I have many more inciteful observations of how to get away the proper way, but enough for now. Lets see what other people come up with hm? ------------------ |
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WashuuX unregistered |
>If you are in a big city, your toast, you >can't outrun the helecoptors. In some movie (I think "Heat") the heli had to let the bad guy go cause he was driving near the airport. And if you have a partner with you who happens to be the owner of a good rifle, then this AFO (annoying flying object) is in for some lead poisoning. I would prefer a full auto rifle for this job. >And in many chases the cops use atap >technique to send your car out of control. If you`re a good driver, you should be able to deal with this. I suppose there are some evasive driving techniques to counter it. Then there are caltrops. And paintbombs. And as usual there`s the lead option. All the time during the actual operation listen to your radio scanner. If you know when the cops start their motors you will be gone when they arrive. Too make it even worse for the cops and their cute lil` radios, use a jammer, so they can hear nothing but interference. Real pros might even create some diversion (eg. bombed mall or transformer) so the cops are at the other end of town. Concerning traces, wear gloves and safely dispose of them afterwards. If gloves would look too much out of place, like when you`re shopping for supplies, cover your finger tips with 1.superglue 2.liquid bandage 3.or liquid glove This way, they won`t be able to compare your prints to their database but if they suspect you they might go for palm prints and what else is left of your hand. THE #1 RULE: KEEP YOUR F**KING MOUTH SHUT! Don`t brag about it afterwards, don`t discuss it before. If you tell someone, they have 2 choices. Either tell the police so you will go to jail or refuse to testify/lie which means that they might go to jail. Don`t sh*t in your own backyard, if a bank in Smalltown, Alabama is robbed, cops will suspect people from Smalltown, Alabama. If Mr. A is murdered, they will suspect the people he knew. Don`t drive around in a Ferrari if you live on welfare. Don`t drive a Ferrari at all, because cops like to check and harrass people who drive cars they themselves will never ever be able to afford. Don`t look like a criminal. Don`t wear a copkiller shirt. Be nice and gentle and clean. Don`t have a "bad cop - no donut" sticker on your car. Don`t speed too much, just stay about 5 miles over the limit. Have somebody drive in front of you about 1/2 mile who can radio you if any roadblocks appear. >Holding up a bank? Better use a mask, >glasses don't really cut it. They can analyze your masked face and identify the shape of your head (that`s what they claim). So stuff some paper in your cheeks, stuff some newspapers under your clothes so you`ll look fatter than usual. >And do not ever bring any kind of >identification with you on a crime. But if some cop stops you, you`re in much deeper shit. Carry one or two pieces of ID with you in a pocket where you absolutely won`t loose it. Maybe carry new or fake ID. Anybody can comment on new ID? I`m always interested. |
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Ho ju Moderator |
Also another good thing to think about is boot or shoe prints and tire prints left in mud. Many people have been caught by getting there shoe (boot) prints aswell as tire prints id'd because they were left in mud or not totaly hardened concrete. So when disposing of your clothes make sure to get rid of your foot ware (no matter how much they cost)and if you want to go the extra mile change the tires on your car to a totaly diffrent brand name. ------------------ |
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megalomania Administrator |
I have started watching that forensic investigator show on one of the learning channels. They had a guy last week who killed a woman. He wrecked his car while drunk, then in a rage kinnapped her in her car and drove off, ditching it down the road. He left 2 pieces of evidence: First, he shattered her window, the took his jacket as evidence and found micro glass fragments that matched her window. Second, he left a boot print in the snow. The sprayed a chemical on it to keep the print and took alot of pictures as it is difficult even for them to keep a print on snow. They took his boots, easy match even from pictures of a print in snow. The only other thing they found was a holster in his car, no gun and he never fessed up to it. This demonstrates how important it is to ditch all clothing used in a crime. Glue on your fingertips is a great idea if you need to go around unseen. If you need to write a note or use/purchase any object that the police will get (ex. robbery note, stamps for mail bomb, etc.) you need to keep your fingerprints away. Lets see you walk into a postoffice with gloves on and handle everything with tweezers Anybody ever get fingerprinted as a child? They told us then it was for "if you get kidnapped." Today I see this as a cataloging of all US citizens. Big Brother has us all on file, just in case you were wondering why the need for fingerprint stealth. The preplanned route is always a good idea, but you don't always have the luxury of that. What do you do when it's a routine stop out of town? ------------------ |
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Washuu X unregistered |
If toying around with letter bombs, don`t use spit on the stamp, take a sponge, wet it with mineral water (use a cheap common brand) and use this instead of your tongue. They used DNA isolated from a stamp during the World Trade Center bomb investigation and in Austria the cops were able to tell the region a bomber came from because he used tap water for the stamp. |
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