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RDX
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posted August 06, 1999 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RDX   Click Here to Email RDX     
What is 100% White Nitric Acid used for typically in industry?



Saiyan Knight
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posted August 06, 1999 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saiyan Knight     
If you are trying to make RDX or PETN, you do not need 100% white nitric acid. All you need is strong fuming nitric acid. In order to make this you need about 90% red fuming nitric acid and urea( 45-0-0 fertilizer works). Add a little dry urea to the acid and blow dry air over it until it loses its red tint.


ezekiel
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posted August 07, 1999 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ezekiel   Click Here to Email ezekiel     
Where could you buy nitric acid from ? (I think that was actually the real question).
I know there are chemical suppliers , but it is quite pricey (at least at the ones I use).
If anybody knows of a (cheaper) chemical supplier that will sell it to england , please tell.

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Saiyan Knight
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posted August 07, 1999 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saiyan Knight     
Nitric acid would be some what hard to get in the bulk without a special chemical permit. It would be better to make your nitric acid because nitric acid is mainly sold as a 70% concentration. This is too weak for most nitrations.


megalomania
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posted August 07, 1999 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
Nitric for individuals is very hard to come by. I just found two chem supply companies the sell 2.5L of ACS grade 70% nitric acid for $25.00 and $44.00 US. That is outrageous! One tactic to keep chemicals away from citizens is to only sell expensive ACS grade. 70% is about as high as you can get without requiring motor freight, $$$. This is just another reason for me to start my chemical supply company. I could sell tech grade 70% nitric for a tenth of those prices. Any buyers?

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ezekiel
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posted August 08, 1999 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ezekiel   Click Here to Email ezekiel     
I suppose orders to england are out...


RDX
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posted August 08, 1999 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RDX   Click Here to Email RDX     
I can get a hold of 68% Nitric Acid but I believe it is white in color.

Is this still usable for manufacturing RDX?



mosaz
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posted August 08, 1999 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosaz   Click Here to Email mosaz     
I'm not sure but I think 68% is not strong enough. The concentration must be >70%. (i'm not sure ) but another question. Is it pssible to make 100% white nitric acid at home?? Is white or red nitric acid used for most high explosives???


Saiyan Knight
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posted August 08, 1999 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saiyan Knight     
In order to make RDX or PETN effectively you MUST use 90% or higher strong red fuming nitric acid. Then you add a little dry urea(45-0-0 fertilizer works) to the nitric acid and blow dry ai over it untill it loses its red tint. I tried to make RDX with 70% nitric acid about 10 times and most of the time it didn't work. Sometimes it did work but it was very weak, about as strong as ANFO which explodes up to 15000fps. Millitary RDX is suppose to explode at 27000-28000 fps


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