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ezekiel
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posted July 31, 1999 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ezekiel   Click Here to Email ezekiel     
Are there any binary (two part) explosives or explosives that are formed instantly by mixing two previously stable chemicals , that are primary and very shock sensitive ?

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Saiyan Knight
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posted August 01, 1999 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saiyan Knight     
If you mix equal amounts of household ammonia with Iodine crystals(not Iodine from the drug store but pure anhydrous Iodine) and wait 30 minutes and filter the brown-purple crystals, you will have just made nitrogen triiodine. This explosive when dry is probably the most unstable explosive ever. When dry it will explode from the follwing: possibly from its own weight, from air currents, from the touch of a feather(No I not kidding) from vibrations, and heat and friction. But when wet it is kind of stable. Do not store this explosive an use it within 24 hours. Also do not dry this explosive with a blow dryer or something like that. Let it dry on its own. When wet put this explosive in its permanent place and do not attempt to move it because it will explode when dry.


WashuuX
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posted August 01, 1999 01:32 PM           
How about the sulfur/phosphor-chlorate mix? Aka armstrong explosive, very sensitive to pressure or shock. Just mix the two components by pouring from one sheet of paper to another several times and hope it doesn`t blow up because it just feels like it. Maybe you could use this for a letter bomb, the two powders are mixed upon opening the envelope.


ezekiel
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posted August 01, 1999 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ezekiel   Click Here to Email ezekiel     
Thanks for the suggestions , but I was thinking of something involving at least one liquid or gas... sorry I didn't make myself clear. ammonium triiodide would be good but takes too long to form.. armstrongs' needs to be properly mixed..
I think something involving a chemical reaction would be the most probable

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Ho ju
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posted August 01, 1999 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
The ammonium triiodide crystals will not explode that easily when made out of HOUSE HOLD ammonium. There are too many impurities in it to make it that sensitive. Now if you use the industrial strength ammonium then you have some serious shit!


ezekiel
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posted August 02, 1999 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ezekiel   Click Here to Email ezekiel     
thanks all , especially ho jo
what things do they add to household ammonia ? I would have thought you could extract the ammonia by evaporating it out - any thoughts ?

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*Igenx*
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posted August 02, 1999 06:05 PM           
When sulferic acid and acetone (nail polish remover/ paint stripper) are combined they explode instantly.


poison
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posted August 02, 1999 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poison   Click Here to Email poison     
Woha they do? Then why when making Acetone peroxide they do not explode? does the peroxide prevent it? Im talking about the dimmer version the one that uses sulferic. Becuz all Acetone Peroxide is acetone peroxide and sulferic or hydrochloric acid.
-pois


Ho ju
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posted August 02, 1999 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
If you look on the side of a bottle of ammonium (bought in a store) you will see a mess of stuff other than ammonium. Ammonium is VERY toxic in it's pure form. It is excreted by the body after it is made during metabolic activities cause it can kill you when it builds up.

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Ho ju
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posted August 02, 1999 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ho ju   Click Here to Email Ho ju     
Are you sure Igenx, that paint thinner and nail polish remover, when mixed explode? That sounds almost too good to be true. Have you tried it?

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megalomania
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posted August 03, 1999 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for megalomania   Click Here to Email megalomania     
I think, Ho Ju, that Igenx meant acetone is found in paint thinner and nail polish remover. The sulfuric acid would need to be 95-100% in order to cause detonation, it is diluted in acetone peroxide preperation. I have the book by Seymore Lecker called "Deadly Brew" a Palidin Press book. It's just lists chemicals that explode on contact with sulfuric and/or nitric acid. i shall post em sometime.

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poison
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posted August 03, 1999 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poison   Click Here to Email poison     
Cool is there any delay before the explosion? How powerfull is it? Ill be looking for thos posts not emga >
-pois


Survivor
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posted August 04, 1999 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Survivor   Click Here to Email Survivor     
"Deadly Brew" can be found here.

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Nitrochem
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posted August 04, 1999 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nitrochem   Click Here to Email Nitrochem     
Try mixing a reducing material (sulfur, crushed napthalene, even AP) with potassium permanganate. This mixture is NOT stable so be careful (using KMnO4+S+powdered Al is actually flash powder). Then add a few drops of conc H2SO4. This liberates oxygen from the permanganate and causes more than enough heat to start an explosive rection.


Washuu X
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posted August 04, 1999 01:17 PM           
I`m really doubtful about some of the combinations in "Deadly Brew". It reminds me of an older pyro-phile where the author told you that to make explosives, you just should check out a chemical, read the label for the substances it mustn`t be mixed with and mix it with these. Anyone seen him or at least parts of him?


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